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    Michelle Obama’s warning to gun owners

    Just ran across this article today. Heed the warning.

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    Michelle Obama’s warning to gun owners


    Nearly three years into President Obama’s first term in office, Michelle Obama finally said something with which I can agree.

    At a recent fundraiser for President Obama’s re-election campaign in Providence, Rhode Island, the first lady told her audience:

    “We stand at a fundamental crossroads for our country. You’re here because you know that in just 13 months, we’re going to make a choice that will impact our lives for decades to come … let’s not forget what it meant when my husband appointed those two brilliant Supreme Court justices … let’s not forget the impact that their decisions will have on our lives for decades to come.”

    This was music to the ears of the small, affluent crowd of admirers who cheered and applauded. But to gun owners, Michelle Obama’s remarks should sound like a warning bell, alerting us to the danger ahead should Barack Obama win re-election and get the opportunity to alter the current make-up of the Supreme Court.


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    Don't worry, I have a better chance of hitting the lottery than obama has of being re-elected....


    i forgot to mention, so i decided to edit, i don't buy lottery tickets...
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    Not one reference to guns, nor gun owners. Where do you come up with these crack-pop correlations? She is right about one thing, that the implications of a second term for President Obama will (likely) have an effect that will span the next decade-or-so.

    President Obama will see a second term. The Republicans are playing a high stakes game, and I see the Republicans over-played, and losing next year.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Not one reference to guns, nor gun owners. Where do you come up with these crack-pop correlations? She is right about one thing, that the implications of a second term for President Obama will (likely) have an effect that will span the next decade-or-so.

    President Obama will see a second term. The Republicans are playing a high stakes game, and I see the Republicans over-played, and losing next year.
    If you can't see what's happening beyond what a politician comes out and says, you don't belong in the game.

    Just for starters: Sotomayor testified under oath during her confirmation hearings that Heller was settled law... then turned right around and signed onto the dissenting opinion in McDonald that called for its repeal.

    Crack-pop? Are you kidding?

    Wow.

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    Sorry, just another hater headline to fire up the base. Didn't see any reference to guns. I'm still waiting for the President to come take my guns even though I have more guns, ammo and gun rights under Obama than I did under Bush. If Obama told some folks that they had a nice smile, they would go out and shoot themselves in the face.

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    yeah obama is pretty much well hated across the country. even his own liberal peeps are disapproving him. slim chance he will get re-elected. im not too worried. what i am worried about is if he throws out another brady ban before we kick him out in an attempt to solidify his reign of terror. but then again if we elect an actual LEADER....that would probably be removed like the last brady bunch flub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    Sorry, just another hater headline to fire up the base. Didn't see any reference to guns. I'm still waiting for the President to come take my guns even though I have more guns, ammo and gun rights under Obama than I did under Bush. If Obama told some folks that they had a nice smile, they would go out and shoot themselves in the face.
    The only difference I know of is that you can now have guns in parks. Didn't Bush champion that? Wasn't that drafted under bush? Wasn't it stuck onto a credit card reform bill which Obama wanted? Wasn't it signed into law during the ammunition shortage?

    Maybe you're talking about the more recent supreme court decisions that expanded our gun rights, the decisions opposed by the Justices nominated by Obama.

    The reference wasn't direct. But it is not so far fetched to walk away with the conclusions the OP did. Obama did in fact appointed two SC Justices that both voted anti-gun rights. Michelle Obama did praise them for intelligence. Is it not then logical to conclude that Michelle Obama, and by possible extension, Barrack Obama were not satisfied with the decisions of those two Justices?

    Over the last hundred plus years, we have not just suffered an assault on our rights as gun owners, it was a full on invasion, turning into an occupation. We have managed to beat back the oppressors quite a bit. But they are still there, still powerful, thought not nearly as much as they once were, and are biding their time for the right opportunity to strike back. It is not foolish to be wary of what they say, especially when they have a history of speaking with a forked tongue.

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    What Michelle stated was a very generic comment. However, the comment could/can have broad implications to many areas, including the regulation or lack of regulation for firearms. There have been several 2A organizations, (SAF/CCRKBA comes to mind) who sent fearmails interpreting her comments to be specifically tied to 2A.

    Could her comments come to fruition? Possibly. But, until/if, he is re-elected, it will be hard to make that distinction, without further comments/actions from King Obama.

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    Yes, it was a very generic comment, but as such, can then be applied 'generically' across all the comments that the Occupant has made from his election campaign to the present. Remember, the Occupant stated in no uncertain terms that gun control is an "under the radar" program.

    The issue some of us have with a comment like this is the thinking behind it ... while we cannot know specifically, we can postulate based on past comments and actions, and the comments and actions of his supporters both political and 'non-political' ... and a lot of us don't like where it is leading us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    Yes, it was a very generic comment, but as such, can then be applied 'generically' across all the comments that the Occupant has made from his election campaign to the present. Remember, the Occupant stated in no uncertain terms that gun control is an "under the radar" program.

    The issue some of us have with a comment like this is the thinking behind it ... while we cannot know specifically, we can postulate based on past comments and actions, and the comments and actions of his supporters both political and 'non-political' ... and a lot of us don't like where it is leading us!
    I don't disagree with you. I definitely see where you are coming from.

    Just about anything a conservative individual believes in could take issue with her comments. It is very much evident they would like to take this country further left.

    IMHO, I think it's a statement they can/could use to show how the 'extreme right' interprets everything they say as an attack against them; 'they're not part of the mainstream'. Therefore, attacking/trying to neutralize the conservative even more. The question is, will they follow that path? Good question. I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
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    President Obama will see a second term. The Republicans are playing a high stakes game, and I see the Republicans over-played, and losing next year.
    I still say she's cute when she's huffing paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carry for myself View Post
    yeah obama is pretty much well hated across the country. even his own liberal peeps are disapproving him. slim chance he will get re-elected. im not too worried. what i am worried about is if he throws out another brady ban before we kick him out in an attempt to solidify his reign of terror. but then again if we elect an actual LEADER....that would probably be removed like the last brady bunch flub.
    The individual in the White House was elected by a plurality of elector votes - that would indicate that there are a great number of people who either drank the Koolade or prefer a welfare state. The reason some Dems are sliding to the side is that they fear that they shall not be reelected, not that they so much disapprove of him, but do not want to risk too strong an association.......yet. Look at what incumbents have done - not what they say on the campaign trail.

    There are those of us that do fear he might possibly return for a second term. The more populous states have not turned there back on him completely, the labor unions still supbort him, welfare recipients still cling in large numbers + a number of other demographic groups. I've heard, only heard, mind you of dead people voting and people voting multiple times.

    We cannot presume to think he is finished as the occupant of the Oval Office. We must prevail and IMO will if we remain vigilant and pour it on before the elections and at the polls.

    The President can't enact another Brady Ban - that is the purview of Congress.
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    The fact that he won the most votes could also indicate that there are a lot of people that didn't care for the alternative. Some also wanted out of Iraq. Some wanted to work toward an affordable health care solution and some were just creeped out by Palin. I haven't met any democrats that won't vote for him again and even some republicans who will vote for him considering the dismal republican offerings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrayingForWar View Post
    I still say she's cute when she's huffing paint.
    Like every election night, I will be sitting in front of the tube, eating pizza, watching it all play out. President Obama is going to hold the White House, and Republicans are going to lose some seats (not many, but they will lose). The country is moving center-left, becoming more liberal. I merely see the baby-boomers making a big deal of all this as their last ditch effort to hold onto their dogmatic views. Baby Boo-ers, step aside, take your undying devotion to Individualism, take your consumerism, take your money, and go to pasture somewhere, far away from the system that you spent decades destroying.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    The individual in the White House was elected by a plurality of elector votes - that would indicate that there are a great number of people who either drank the Koolade or prefer a welfare state. The reason some Dems are sliding to the side is that they fear that they shall not be reelected, not that they so much disapprove of him, but do not want to risk too strong an association.......yet. Look at what incumbents have done - not what they say on the campaign trail.

    There are those of us that do fear he might possibly return for a second term. The more populous states have not turned there back on him completely, the labor unions still supbort him, welfare recipients still cling in large numbers + a number of other demographic groups. I've heard, only heard, mind you of dead people voting and people voting multiple times.

    We cannot presume to think he is finished as the occupant of the Oval Office. We must prevail and IMO will if we remain vigilant and pour it on before the elections and at the polls.

    The President can't enact another Brady Ban - that is the purview of Congress.
    Rush Limbaugh, is that you?
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Like every election night, I will be sitting in front of the tube, eating pizza, watching it all play out. President Obama is going to hold the White House, and Republicans are going to lose some seats (not many, but they will lose). The country is moving center-left, becoming more liberal. I merely see the baby-boomers making a big deal of all this as their last ditch effort to hold onto their dogmatic views. Baby Boo-ers, step aside, take your undying devotion to Individualism, take your consumerism, take your money, and go to pasture somewhere, far away from the system that you spent decades destroying.

    Just out of curiousity, do you have any relevent data to support the center-left movement and the rest? They went center-left with KO.....I'm not hearing anything, other than from you and a couple of progressive web sites, that the country wants more of KO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Just out of curiousity, do you have any relevent data to support the center-left movement and the rest? They went center-left with KO.....I'm not hearing anything, other than from you and a couple of progressive web sites, that the country wants more of KO.
    As I stated, President Obama will be reelected. If He is reelected, the Republicans should be thanked the most for it. It is looking to me like the Republicans don't have much to work with as far as candidates. For your sake, I hope I am wrong.

    Think about it, Carter had low approval ratings, but was faced with a formidable candidate, Reagan. None of the individuals the Republicans have-up are anything close to Reagan. Good luck in your quest.
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    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    If he is re-elected, there is a certain segment of the population that is very likely to cause civil disturbance.

    If he is not re-elected, there is another segment of the population that is very likely to cause civil disturbance.

    Just remember this: A Democracy only exists until the people learn that they can vote themselves "bread and circuses". Personally, I am hoping enough people wake up to what is happening to reverse the trend toward a socialist state. If that does not happen, the United States of America, as we know it today (and in past years), will very quickly cease to exist.

    Read some of Robert Heinlein's works, especially "To Sail Beyond the Sunset", to see where we are now and where we are going. Science fiction writers have a pretty good track record of being prophets, as witness Jules Verne.

    Personally, I do not think the person now in the White House has the chance of the proverbial gas can in Hades of being returned to office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    As I stated, President Obama will be reelected. If He is reelected, the Republicans should be thanked the most for it. It is looking to me like the Republicans don't have much to work with as far as candidates. For your sake, I hope I am wrong.

    Think about it, Carter had low approval ratings, but was faced with a formidable candidate, Reagan. None of the individuals the Republicans have-up are anything close to Reagan. Good luck in your quest.
    Aside from your opinion, do you have any data to support you claim, just curious. Even the most liberal polls don't have a good showing for KO. But I know, it is still early.

    With all due respect, Reagan was a no name at this time in the election back then; therefore, his formidability (sp) didn't exist. IIRC, he was not even polling in the top 3 candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Aside from your opinion, do you have any data to support you claim, just curious. Even the most liberal polls don't have a good showing for KO. But I know, it is still early.

    With all due respect, Reagan was a no name at this time in the election back then; therefore, his formidability (sp) didn't exist. IIRC, he was not even polling in the top 3 candidates.

    Obviously, the election is going to play out, and we will find out if I am wrong. Regarding the poster above you: It appears that you have laid out a situation where there is upheaval either way. If it calms your mind a bit, I will tell you right now, the sky is not falling. You are right about one thing, we are moving towards a 'more' Socialist State - whether that is a good or bad thing, we will see. now don't go pulling a Hitler or Stalin out of your hat; there are plenty of Socialist States that have not committed mass murder.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Like every election night, I will be sitting in front of the tube, eating pizza, watching it all play out.
    No beer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Obviously, the election is going to play out, and we will find out if I am wrong. Regarding the poster above you: It appears that you have laid out a situation where there is upheaval either way. If it calms your mind a bit, I will tell you right now, the sky is not falling. You are right about one thing, we are moving towards a 'more' Socialist State - whether that is a good or bad thing, we will see. now don't go pulling a Hitler or Stalin out of your hat; there are plenty of Socialist States that have not committed mass murder.
    The one card that can play into KO hands and benefit him is the economy. If it turns around, substantially, prior to the election, he has a shot; but if unemployment stays the same and the economy stays about the same, it will weigh around his neck like a boat anchor being tossed into the Abyss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    The one card that can play into KO hands and benefit him is the economy. If it turns around, substantially, prior to the election, he has a shot; but if unemployment stays the same and the economy stays about the same, it will weigh around his neck like a boat anchor being tossed into the Abyss.
    And the irony of this observation is that much of what will influence the beginning of an economic recovery is perception... the very perception that Obama will lose will very likely spur the start of a recovery. If it happens so early that it fools the muddle in the middle (no doubt that he will claim it's his policies, rather than the relief that he's about to be unemployed that started the recovery), it could back-fire, leaving the disaster in office for another round of recession-causing policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    No beer?

    She'll be packing up all of her beer and shipping it to me.


    I don't know how anyone can argue her position, it defies logic and ignores too many important facts. Obozo did not run as a flaming marxist zealot. He ran as a "unifier" who was going to bring the parties together just like Mclame did. He was going to shut down Gitmo, balance the budget, pay off the debt, and bring the unemployment rate to zero, just like Mclame. The only real difference between the 2 candidates bullscat was that obozo was going to immediately end the wars.

    Obviously he was lying. He continued the Bush foreign policy, and even expanded bombing while attacking new countries. Now we have all of North Africa facing a power vacuum that may be filled with bearded jihadist sociopaths, and even the french are making fun of us. Obozo pretended to be a centrist, otherwise he would have lost his ass. Now that he can not hide what a complete fascist tool he is, or what a blithering idiot he really is, this office is free to ANY republican we nominate. My only hope is that it's not Romney, but if it is, on election night I'll treat myself to a nice steak diner and a bottle of wine, vote (puke) for Romney, have a cigarette and take a long hot shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    And the irony of this observation is that much of what will influence the beginning of an economic recovery is perception... the very perception that Obama will lose will very likely spur the start of a recovery. If it happens so early that it fools the muddle in the middle (no doubt that he will claim it's his policies, rather than the relief that he's about to be unemployed that started the recovery), it could back-fire, leaving the disaster in office for another round of recession-causing policies.

    TFred
    That's a good point, but there are still a majority of people that want obozocare repealed in spite of what democrap polsters want us too believe. That policy alone will thwart any real recovery. The recent slight dip in the unemployment rate is likely to be reversed after the holiday season. We do need to keep up the pressure though, and not let our guard down. Regardless of what most voters intend too do, there are still things like acorn, the new black panthers, and union thugs that need to be kept from pulling electoral shenanigans.
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