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    Bill introduced to protect WA gun owners at work

    Bill introduced to protect WA gun owners at work introduced

    Legislation that would protect employees from losing their jobs for having firearms locked in their vehicles on company property has been introduced in Olympia by a bi-partisan group of almost 20 House members led by Democrat Brian Blake (91th District) and Republican Joel Kretz (7th District).

    http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...ork-introduced

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    Thanks Dave, Joel has a lot more to go, let's see what kind of traction he gets,

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    Sounds like a very good step in the right direction. I have to admit I was shocked when I saw how many democrats were involved. Wonder what the angle is for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadada View Post
    Sounds like a very good step in the right direction. I have to admit I was shocked when I saw how many democrats were involved. Wonder what the angle is for them?
    Many represent rural areas of the state. Traditionally Washington is a gun friendly state.
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    What would be interesting is to see how well county/city's take this for their employees... While it says "No employer may discharge or discipline an employee..." but I wonder if they will try to argue it doesn't apply to them...

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    Well the dems got to do something right. This is one way to befreind a lot of pro gun folks. And maybe stay in office one more term. It is long past due.

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    Bout time!

    Too bad it wont apply to military bases.

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    w00t! Bout durn time!


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    I would rather see them have to provide lock boxes so my firearm is not left unattended in an unattended parking lot. Lots of vehicle prowls going on right now. I dont leave anything worth stealing in my vehicle and try not to have to leave my firearm in my car. I went to the federal couthouse in Richland, and this was the first time in a LONG time I have left the ammo, in the vehicle with my firearm, although made it so they would have to work to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I would rather see them have to provide lock boxes so my firearm is not left unattended in an unattended parking lot. Lots of vehicle prowls going on right now. I dont leave anything worth stealing in my vehicle and try not to have to leave my firearm in my car. I went to the federal couthouse in Richland, and this was the first time in a LONG time I have left the ammo, in the vehicle with my firearm, although made it so they would have to work to find it.
    Unless you're driving a "smart" car, and even maybe then, you've got room somewhere for a lockbox. That, some grade-8 bolts, & red locktite, and no one's stealing your gun without either an angle grinder, which might look suspicious, or stealing the whole car, which is a bigger problem than just the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCDH View Post
    Bout time!

    Too bad it wont apply to military bases.
    Or federal offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Unless you're driving a "smart" car, and even maybe then, you've got room somewhere for a lockbox. That, some grade-8 bolts, & red locktite, and no one's stealing your gun without either an angle grinder, which might look suspicious, or stealing the whole car, which is a bigger problem than just the gun.
    I could care less if they steal my car, I just dont want them stealing my gun. My car is fully covered.
    besides, if they steal my car, I can call a cab.
    What am supposed to do if they steal my gun, call a cop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I could care less if they steal my car, I just dont want them stealing my gun. My car is fully covered.
    Then that is the easy part. Unless you regularly park somewhere where a guy with a generator and powertools running in the trunk of your car (who's not you) would be considered normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    if they steal my car, I can call a cab.
    What am supposed to do if they steal my gun, call a cop?
    That gave me a pretty good chuckle. Almost signature worthy. Thanks for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Unless you're driving a "smart" car, and even maybe then, you've got room somewhere for a lockbox. That, some grade-8 bolts, & red locktite, and no one's stealing your gun without either an angle grinder, which might look suspicious, or stealing the whole car, which is a bigger problem than just the gun.

    Hey! You leave my ride alone!

    You're right, though. While there isn't a lot of cargo room in a SMART car, there is still enough to attach a lock box with a cable...


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    well,,,

    I would never leave a Whole gun in my car...
    I can easily strip off the slide, with barrel and loaded round and stuff that in my pocket.
    I can leave the frame and mag behind.
    Someone might want to have them, but they are useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Hey! You leave my ride alone!

    You're right, though. While there isn't a lot of cargo room in a SMART car, there is still enough to attach a lock box with a cable...


    ... which I need to do.
    They cease bein' all that smart when the driver ends up looking, well, dumb, trying to figure out how to haul something that even my weird lil half-Samurai could fit with ease.

    Cables are easily defeated. Good set of bolt cutters or even a battery-powered grinder will go thru one in seconds. Great big bolts thru metal, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Hey! You leave my ride alone!

    You're right, though. While there isn't a lot of cargo room in a SMART car, there is still enough to attach a lock box with a cable...


    ... which I need to do.
    I have a friend who had a SMART car. He totaled it. Ran into a deer tick. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lammo View Post
    I have a friend who had a SMART car. He totaled it. Ran into a deer tick. :-)

    (stolen from Larry the Cable Guy).
    Back in the day when vw beetles were all the rage, a couple of big strong guys could move one to a different parking spot... I've always wondered if it'd be possible to tip a fortwo up on its tailgate & make it stay there....


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    Dave,

    Do you know if this is in response to folks actually getting fired for having a gun in their car at their workplace? It would seem to have a greater chance of passing if they can point to instances of this happening. In any case, it looks like a positive step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    I would never leave a Whole gun in my car...
    I can easily strip off the slide, with barrel and loaded round and stuff that in my pocket.
    I can leave the frame and mag behind.
    Someone might want to have them, but they are useless.
    I thought about taking my mag in the federal building but I'm really sure how that would have played out at the metal detector.
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    In my Father's Words

    I forwarded your article to my dad, and these were his thoughts on the matter.

    I agree completely.

    I browsed some of the BBs mentioned by the author and found that while most people had their perspective on the Second Amendment pretty straight, there were still some that were thinking "militia" or "with reasonable controls". I thought it might be worthwhile to right the following...(I will join the forums this weekend when I have some spare time, but in the meantime if you want to post this anywhere, feel free...just attribute it to me, please.)

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    A “Plain English” Explanation of The Second Amendment

    The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States exists to guarantee the right of freedom from domestic oppression by forces of our own government. The first clause, “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,” recognizes that an armed force of some sort must be maintained by any government for its defense against external aggression and in some cases against internal sedition. The term “militia” in the Second Amendment means the same thing now that it did then, an organized body of soldiery either under arms or readily called to arms. The militia is assumed to exist by the language of the Second Amendment, therefore it is not the militia that is guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms by the Second Amendment.

    The opening adjective pertaining to the militia in the Second Amendment, “well-regulated” implies that the militia may be misused and therefore must be controlled against misuse. Since the government is already assumed to control the militia for its own ends, who else would perform this “regulation”? That answer is in the second clause of this amendment’s single sentence: “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    The Second Amendment clearly intends the people of the United States to maintain their own arms, and freely bear them as needed, in order to maintain a system of checks and balances (remember that term from your elementary school Civics?) against the unwarranted abuse of power through the misuse of the militia by our own government. We, “the people” are confirmed beyond doubt in our “right to keep and bear arms” which to prevent its loss or diminishment “shall not be infringed” to ensure that our “militia being necessary to the security of a free state” will always be “well-regulated”.

    The Second Amendment is beautiful in its simplicity and straightforward approach. The Second Amendment is simply the most powerful guarantee of individual rights and freedom ever recorded in the annals of human government. No other right or privilege recognized for or accorded to the people of the United States has any meaning or force without the provision of the Second Amendment ensuring our right to defend ourselves against all oppression.

    Jeff Shelby, December 1, 2011

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