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    Harless Disciplinary Hearing Postponed... Again

    http://www.cantonrep.com/newsnow/x11...ring-postponed

    Clearly they're trying to run this thing out to avoid punishing Harless in any way.

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    Wow...

    the police officer involved in a controversial traffic stop
    Controversial??? Such strong vocabulary!

    Meanwhile, Harless remains on paid medical leave even after running out of sick days. Other officers donated part of their sick time,
    Thin blue line I see...

    The contract clause has existed for “quite a while,” he said, noting that officers have donated time off in the past to an officer who has a serious and extended illness.
    Does that include mental illness?

    video footage shows Harless berating a man he pulled over
    Berating? Really? That's what they're going with?

    Canton Police Patrolmen’s Association asked for an indefinite extension of the disciplinary hearing.

    In a previous letter to Ream, the union president had said due to post-traumatic stress disorder, Harless could not assist in his defense or participate in the hearing.

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    I'm still a little confused here, so I home someone will help me out.
    Exactly when did Ofc. Harless develop PTSD?


    Did he have it before being hired, and if so why was someone with PTSD hired for a traumatic, stressful job?

    Did he develop it while on the job? What traumatic, stressful event did he suffer? From the video evidence it would appear he was on the 'giving' end of stress, not the receiving end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    I'm still a little confused here, so I home someone will help me out.
    Exactly when did Ofc. Harless develop PTSD?


    Did he have it before being hired, and if so why was someone with PTSD hired for a traumatic, stressful job?

    Did he develop it while on the job? What traumatic, stressful event did he suffer? From the video evidence it would appear he was on the 'giving' end of stress, not the receiving end.
    He "developed" it when it looked like he might get fired and lose his pension...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanimator View Post
    He "developed" it when it looked like he might get fired and lose his pension...
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanimator View Post
    He "developed" it when it looked like he might get fired and lose his pension...
    I read somewhere that he is claiming he thought he was going to be shot during the traffic stop and that he is suffering from severe emotional distress....Riiiiiiiiiiight....

    Clearly he hasn't seen his own video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    I read somewhere that he is claiming he thought he was going to be shot during the traffic stop and that he is suffering from severe emotional distress....Riiiiiiiiiiight....

    Clearly he hasn't seen his own video.
    The "PTSD" is nothing but a scam to allow him to keep his pension (and tax free to boot) even if Canton can't afford to let him keep working as a cop.

    Could anybody be SO stupid as to believe that he'd lie in his official report of the incident, but NOT in a disability claim?

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    Meanwhile, I am told that William Bartlett, the victim of Harless's bad temper/behavior, has yet to get back his firearm from the city of Canton. He was acquitted everything but the traffic offense, after all, so why the continued poor treatment from that odious city?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D. View Post
    Meanwhile, I am told that William Bartlett, the victim of Harless's bad temper/behavior, has yet to get back his firearm from the city of Canton. He was acquitted everything but the traffic offense, after all, so why the continued poor treatment from that odious city?
    The place to check would be the OFCC forums.

    I recall SOMEBODY getting his gun back recently, but I think it was Mark Fiorino in Philly.

    Update: According to a post today, it hasn't been returned yet.
    Last edited by Deanimator; 12-05-2011 at 02:04 PM.

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    Dean-o, you oughta know by now I'm not prone to gossipy speculatin'.

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    Its the Unions again. Keep the heat on the Canton PD. They can only put him on leave for so long! This is just a waiting game.
    Last edited by Makarov; 12-16-2011 at 11:51 AM.

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    Hearing held 12-15-2011 but Harless did not attend. Perhaps his claimed PTSD flared up again but it didn't keep him from testifying last week in a murder trial. Decision due by Jan 16, 2012.

    http://www.cantonrep.com/newsnow/x30...-set-for-today

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    Harless...

    Can someone link the article that says Harless was actually a witness last week at some murder trial.

    The only thing I have found is that they play a audio of Harless at the trial..

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    When you do a little digging...

    FYI- These are other recordings of Canton Ohio Police officer Daniel Harless--Doesn't sound like a guy with PTSD...Sounds like a dirty cop!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV4W14un0Sk

    P.S. These statements were made in front of his partner Mark Diels. So two dirty cops.
    Last edited by AB; 12-16-2011 at 05:48 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Daniel Harless to appeal firing from Canton police

    http://www.cantonrep.com/news/x13511...-Canton-police

    The incident was reviewed by an outside prosecutor who concluded Harless’ actions weren’t serious enough to warrant criminal charges.
    Gee - I keep forgetting that threatening to kill someone just does not rise to the level of a crime.

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    Has the gun been returned yet?

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