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    Oath Keepers Receive Tip of National Guard Unit Stand-Down. Liberty Post & Facebook

    http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=316573

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/163945586998396

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat lowe, Stewart Rhodes
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    I hope you enjoy this great news as I did when I was told. Paul Lowe OUTSTANDING!! I just left my neighbors house. Devon is with the National Guard for this area. He just got home from a EDRE (emergency deployment readiness exercise) at the armory. He said that during the exercise 3 companies of infantry were polled by questionare about the drill and it's purpose. One of the questions was, will you as a member of the Nat. Guard use lethal force against the American public if ordered to do so? One of the men stepped forward and refused to take the poll and explained that it was a moral judgement on his part and that he could not do so. He then placed his weapon on the ground and fell in behind the formation. Devon said it was like a waterfall, Every member layed their weapons on the deck and fell in beside the one lone specialist. This included ALL NCO's, STAFF NCO's and SENIOR NCO's. The only people left in front of the original formation was 3 Capt's. 2 Lt's and the BN Commander who was so upset he started having chest pains from yelling and screaming about court martials and disbandment of the unit into other units. Devon is a Mstr.Sgt and he went with his troops and told them that he could not be prouder of any of them. He was floating while he was telling me this. Maybe we have more than just hope on our side. SEMPER FI. my thanks for the honor of being here Robert Paul Lowe I just heard from Devon. He was TX'd by his Plt LDR and advised that the Specialist Who first layed down his weapon is being held in county jail by the Bn CMDR, awaiting a hearing under the UCMJ. Devon couldn't get any more info than that. I don't want to post the mans name until we have more information. I am so upset by this that I am having chest pains. How can they do this to one soldier and not them all. I will let you know how things go. Think I might go lay down for a bit. SEMPER FI. Gary Greene That is great, sort of, to hear. That the officers wont stand by THEIR oath is troubling. Where is this?

    NOTE FROM STEWART RHODES:

    Again, this is unconfirmed, and we are working on confirming it. Please keep that in mind. But this is certainly the kind of mass, whole-unit stand-down that may well become necessary, especially in light of the treason of the US Senate, which voted 93-7 to authorize military detention and trial of U.S. citizens -- claiming the power to apply the laws of war to the American people in the same way as they are used on a conquered, enemy population, like Iraq or Afghanistan. While National Guard units can, and have been used for riot control without violating their oath, we suspect that this survey was asking them about whether they would do something far worse than just keep the peace during riots. We will do our best to get to the bottom of this, and provide all details once confirmed.

    If accurate, this is reminiscent of the stand-down during Katrina by SSGT Joshua May's Utah National Guard Unit, where the whole unit let their commander know, in a peremptory refusal, that they would not participate in any gun confiscation.

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    Evidently things have been resolved, the soldier in question has been released (only held for a few hours) and the unit is going to handle it "inhouse" and an investigation will be completed. At this time, there doesn't seem to be any desire to pursue any charges against the non-commissioned ... hope that means the BnCmdr is the one that will be charged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    Evidently things have been resolved, the soldier in question has been released (only held for a few hours) and the unit is going to handle it "inhouse" and an investigation will be completed. At this time, there doesn't seem to be any desire to pursue any charges against the non-commissioned ... hope that means the BnCmdr is the one that will be charged.
    1. Where are you getting your latest info on this incident? Just curious.

    2. Who issued the order to ask the question in the first place? That will be telling. If the local Cmdr issued the order on his own initiative that is one thing; if he was passing along orders from above, it speaks volumes as to the intent of those who originated the order.
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    Oathkeepers facebook page ... scroll down a bit.

    My guess would be that the order came from above ... probably along the same lines as the B.Gen in charge of Abu Ghraib ... she was by-passed and her orders were suborned.
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    Reads like a chain letter.

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    "Again, this is unconfirmed, and we are working on confirming it. Please keep that in mind."

    If this actually happened, you can bet that it will be all over the media.

    Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    Reads like a chain letter.
    And smells like something else.

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