GlockRDH
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I shouldve stated that i wasnt refering to the CCL permit card....but to 'illegally carried weapons' or individuals with an RO.
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Dispatcher to Officer: "Use caution. CCW." --- Standard procedure?
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I shouldve stated that i wasnt refering to the CCL permit card....but to 'illegally carried weapons' or individuals with an RO.
The report from the scanner sounds believable...
..., it was reported as, may have, might be. I would like to know where GLOCK21GB found his information on this unlawful practice that he has stated to be SOP at a state wide level. Would you please reference your source Mr. GLOCK21GB. Thank you, boar out.
..., it was reported as, may have, might be. I would like to know where GLOCK21GB found his information on this unlawful practice that he has stated to be SOP at a state wide level. Would you please reference your source Mr. GLOCK21GB. Thank you, boar out.
The_Pennsylvanian
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I wouldn't worry about that too much. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has been dinking around with OpenSky for over ten YEARS now , and the system STILL doesn't work . :banghead: Ask the State of New York about OpenSky ; they'll give you an earful.
Harris Communications should be dragged over hot coals for even trying to sell that piece of $hite radio system . . . . .
What was the physical location of your scanner? Not the street address, but the city/county and state particularly - also the frequency heard as that can likely be tied to the LEA in question.
While not an accusation, we occasionally have "drive-by" posters who make claims, then never return to respond. Would prefer to suppose that you are legitimate, but only you or time can clarify.
We're waiting or (to borrow your phrase), running/monitoring in the background.
One caveat. The radio upgrades are driven by free federal money (which cities can not turn down) and are Federally mandated.
See MABAS link http://www.mabaswisconsin.org/
All thanks to Sept 11, Katrina and other disaster that had various agencies unable to communicate. The main reason the fed wants the analog radio system digitized is to free up band width for other things. A digital radio uses tremendously less frequency band width. The FCC wants the band width back so it can be re licensed for things like wireless routers and what not. It is all about the money.
The MFD is rushing their Open Sky radios into service by the end of the year or they lose 2 million federal dollars.
I heard something on the scanner yesterday as well in Waukesha. All I heard was conceal carry and nothing else.
Technically Open Sky is not digital.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSky
It is also a terrible radio system.
http://blog.tcomeng.com/index.php/2009/problems-with-opensky-digital-trunked-radio-systems/
That is an eye opener - thanks for the link.
It's a digital radio signal from handy talky or car radio to the transceiver (which are mounted all over the city). From the transceiver it uses VOIP (digital hard wired) through the municipalities fiber optic network. Point is, the signal you get on a scanner is encrypted and unavailable to the public.
Since when did something being a "terrible system" ever stop government form implementing? The Fed has mandated it to be up and running by the end of 2013.
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Herr Heckler Koch
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Open Sky for M/A-COM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSky
January 15, 2009, the State of New York terminated its contract with M/A-COM due to ongoing and unresolved deficiencies with the OpenSky system. [2] On February 13, 2009, Tyco Electronics filed a complaint against the New York State Office for Technology (NY-OFT), in the New York State Court of Claims, disputing the claims made by the OFT. In the complaint, Tyco Electronics disputed many of the NY-OFT’s public criticisms of both the company and the system, maintaining that SWN (which included OpenSky) ‘worked as contracted.’ The complaint also claimed the state hindered the company’s ability to build the system in a timely manner, defamed the company by stating that its technology did not work, and that the state inappropriately drew $50 million from the standby letter of credit the company established for the project. [3]
http://www.oft.state.ny.us/News/PressRelease_SWNContract.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSky
January 15, 2009, the State of New York terminated its contract with M/A-COM due to ongoing and unresolved deficiencies with the OpenSky system. [2] On February 13, 2009, Tyco Electronics filed a complaint against the New York State Office for Technology (NY-OFT), in the New York State Court of Claims, disputing the claims made by the OFT. In the complaint, Tyco Electronics disputed many of the NY-OFT’s public criticisms of both the company and the system, maintaining that SWN (which included OpenSky) ‘worked as contracted.’ The complaint also claimed the state hindered the company’s ability to build the system in a timely manner, defamed the company by stating that its technology did not work, and that the state inappropriately drew $50 million from the standby letter of credit the company established for the project. [3]
http://www.oft.state.ny.us/News/PressRelease_SWNContract.htm
Yep it's a crummy system. Most of MPD rely on their cell phones as back up. It'll be interesting what the MFD does. Tough to dial a cell phone in firefighting gloves.
I included location information in post #14 above. I have provided the information I have and you will have to choose to believe it or not. I don't post questions here because I've never had a question that I couldn't answer by searching through other threads or other sites. Regardless of whether anyone thinks I am "legitimate", it seems to all be moot. Without the name of the person that was stopped and access to information about whether that person is a valid Wisconsin CCL holder, it seems we will not know if the dispatcher was sending a warning about just a CCL holder or someone that previously charged/convicted of carrying a concealed weapon. My apologies if this created some sort of fire drill. I really am interested to know what a CCL holder might expect if they are approached by a LEO.
I will keep an eye out for any reports that surface about this incident. I will also be a more careful observer, should I find myself in this situation again. Thanks.
I will keep an eye out for any reports that surface about this incident. I will also be a more careful observer, should I find myself in this situation again. Thanks.
So you did, must have gone right by it - sorry.
Will be interested to hear if this occurs again.
MKEgal
Regular Member
Latest troll, reincarnation of lunchables et. al.rady8um said:
Just ignore & report him & he'll go the way of all the other alii.
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bigdaddy1
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Yep, thats why we have an ignore function here.
The_Pennsylvanian
Regular Member
Oh , it's DEFINITELY all about the money. One of the big drives for the whole Digital TV thing was so that the F.C.C. could re-purpose and auction off that portion of the VHF-Medium bandwidth . Being a General Class licensed Amateur Radio operator , and having a friend who does professional LMR sales , service and install , I get it. The narrowbanding in 2013 is bad enough , without full digital encryption . I just wonder why the City of Milwaukee would use such a shoddy standard when there are readily available, proven systems like P-25 out there.
Back on topic ( I apologise for my digression ) , there is NO excuse for the dispatcher to relay that information , unless , as mentioned before , it was on a previus conviction or the subject may have had warrants outstanding .
NEVER MIND ! The browser didn't show the other six posts when I clicked refresh before I posted this .
Back on topic ( I apologise for my digression ) , there is NO excuse for the dispatcher to relay that information , unless , as mentioned before , it was on a previus conviction or the subject may have had warrants outstanding .
NEVER MIND ! The browser didn't show the other six posts when I clicked refresh before I posted this .
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Milwaukee functions on a blind low bid contracting system, even though it always costs more in the end.
I didn't mean to hijack the thread talking radio. My point was, we have a year to get evidence from the current system before J. Q. Public gets locked out.