freeSTATE101
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Do i have to show my id if stopped by a LEO for oc'ing in PA
lol yes i do have state id i was just wondering if i was legally obligated to show it if stopped for oc'ing since im new to oc
another question is it legal to own a ballistic vest in PA and/or do you need a special permit or license to do so...?
18 Pa.C.S.§907. (Possessing instruments of crime)
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(c) Unlawful body armor.--A person commits a felony of the third degree if in the course of the commission of a felony or in the attempt to commit a felony he uses or wears body armor or has in his control, custody or possession any body armor.
(d) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:
“Body armor.” Any protective covering for the body, or parts thereof, made of any polyaramid fiber or any resin-treated glass fiber cloth or any material or combination of materials made or designed to prevent, resist, deflect or deter the penetration thereof by ammunition, knife, cutting or piercing instrument or any other weapon.
.United States Law, 18 USC 931, provides that:
(a) In General.—Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be unlawful for a person to purchase, own, or possess body armor, if that person has been convicted of a felony that is—(1) a crime of violence (as defined in section 16); or (2) an offense under State law that would constitute a crime of violence under paragraph (1) if it occurred within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
Do i have to show my id if stopped by a LEO for oc'ing in PA
right now, PA is in a state of emergency, until January 8th.
to carry a firearm in PA, openly or concealed, during a state of emergency, you must have a LTCF. therefore, as of this moment, i would say that yes, if a LEO stopped and demanded to see your LTCF because you were open carrying during a state of emergency, you're legally obliged to show it to him.
however, as i'm sure many LEOs aren't even aware of the SOE, i imagine that they won't be demanding your LTCF for that reason. if one does, ask them why they want to see it. unless they specifically state it's because of the SOE, then you may or may not decline to provide it, as i've done at least twice since the SOE was declared.
many people aren't aware that we're under a SOE declaration. the memo is available on the government website, but wasn't released to the press, conveniently.
just to repeat, to carry a firearm in PA during an official state of emergency, you must have a LTCF, regardless of the method of carry.
Is the SOE from Aug. 26, 2011 (Irene) still in effect?
yup. so, it'll be going on four months that we've been under an SOE, in a week or two. and almost no one knows about it.
:uhoh:
That seems [strike]unusual[/strike] [strike]extreme[/strike] [strike]ridiculous[/strike] [strike]absurd[/strike] ludicrous.
Damn, I was almost at a loss for words.
Four (4) months - how much high water and wind damage could you have had? Needing cleanup and repair I can understand, but four months of SOE? Ludicrous!