qball54208
Regular Member
Posted no concealed weapons! How dumb is this? I tried to attach the photo using my HTC, obviously it did not work!
At any rate, I did e-mail the property mgr:
Good day Ma’am,
I was recently at east Town on 15DEC2011 and had noticed signs on the doors prohibiting “Concealed Weapons” on the property. I realize that WI has recently made Lawfully carrying a concealed weapon legal, this is new to a lot of Wisconsinites, lawfully being able to carry a concealed weapon.
However, since 1997, we have enjoyed the Right to Open Carry a firearm in WI, as seen here:
Right to keep and bear arms. SECTION 25. [As created
Nov. 1998] The people have the right to keep and bear arms for
security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.
[1995 J.R. 27, 1997 J.R. 21, vote November 1998]
I do respect private property owners who wish to post and inform the general public that they (you) wish not to allow weapons on the property. However, that does come with a potential price, limiting peoples Rights afforded Us by the WI Constitution and The US Constitution.
Along with restricting peoples Rights to defend themselves against a possible attack, the property owner now assumes liability under, WI 2011 Act 35, Chapter 175.60 (21) b & c, as follows:
(21) IMMUNITY. (a) The department of justice, the
department of transportation, and the employees of each
department; clerks, as defined in sub. (11) (a) 1. a., and
their staff; and court automated information systems, as
defined under sub. (11) (a) 1. b., and their employees are
immune from liability arising from any act or omission
under this section, if done so in good faith.
(b) A person that does not prohibit an individual from
carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person
owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising
from its decision.
(c) An employer that does not prohibit one or more
employees from carrying a concealed weapon under sub.
(15m) is immune from any liability arising from its decision
Along with posting/restricting weapons, the property owner NO LONGER enjoys immunity arising from any incident where, as a result ANY individual sustains an injury, to include death or great bodily harm, due to an individual using any weapon in the commission of a crime on any property that has been posted.
I hope that you and your collogues review this vital information here.
I would also add this, there are thousands of Second Amendment supporters here in the Brown County area, a vast majority WILL NOT patronize any establishment that restricts their Rights to Keep and Bear Arms, as it is stated above.
My resources are:
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35.pdf
http://docs.legis.wi.gov/statutes/statutes/175/60
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35
See also, https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35
I thank you for your attention and time on this matter,
Respectfully,
Brian Johnson
Green Bay WI
At any rate, I did e-mail the property mgr:
Good day Ma’am,
I was recently at east Town on 15DEC2011 and had noticed signs on the doors prohibiting “Concealed Weapons” on the property. I realize that WI has recently made Lawfully carrying a concealed weapon legal, this is new to a lot of Wisconsinites, lawfully being able to carry a concealed weapon.
However, since 1997, we have enjoyed the Right to Open Carry a firearm in WI, as seen here:
Right to keep and bear arms. SECTION 25. [As created
Nov. 1998] The people have the right to keep and bear arms for
security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.
[1995 J.R. 27, 1997 J.R. 21, vote November 1998]
I do respect private property owners who wish to post and inform the general public that they (you) wish not to allow weapons on the property. However, that does come with a potential price, limiting peoples Rights afforded Us by the WI Constitution and The US Constitution.
Along with restricting peoples Rights to defend themselves against a possible attack, the property owner now assumes liability under, WI 2011 Act 35, Chapter 175.60 (21) b & c, as follows:
(21) IMMUNITY. (a) The department of justice, the
department of transportation, and the employees of each
department; clerks, as defined in sub. (11) (a) 1. a., and
their staff; and court automated information systems, as
defined under sub. (11) (a) 1. b., and their employees are
immune from liability arising from any act or omission
under this section, if done so in good faith.
(b) A person that does not prohibit an individual from
carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person
owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising
from its decision.
(c) An employer that does not prohibit one or more
employees from carrying a concealed weapon under sub.
(15m) is immune from any liability arising from its decision
Along with posting/restricting weapons, the property owner NO LONGER enjoys immunity arising from any incident where, as a result ANY individual sustains an injury, to include death or great bodily harm, due to an individual using any weapon in the commission of a crime on any property that has been posted.
I hope that you and your collogues review this vital information here.
I would also add this, there are thousands of Second Amendment supporters here in the Brown County area, a vast majority WILL NOT patronize any establishment that restricts their Rights to Keep and Bear Arms, as it is stated above.
My resources are:
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35.pdf
http://docs.legis.wi.gov/statutes/statutes/175/60
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35
See also, https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/35
I thank you for your attention and time on this matter,
Respectfully,
Brian Johnson
Green Bay WI
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