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    This OC incident made national news: The result!

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    Good news!!! Hopefully they(City of Madison) have learned their lesson.
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    Awesome!!! Be sure to post the link to all of your social networking sites to spread awareness.
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    wow talk about over kill on the officers, I hope they didn't do this on purpose. Much rather hear that the officers were not aware that its legal to "Open Carry".
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    Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.
    When the norm is 'get trampled by horses,' getting out from under the feet of the horses is a reasonable result. It isn't typical to be able to get out from under the feet of the horses and immediately trample back.
    While getting what YOU desire out of it might be beneficial, it isn't a realistic outcome to expect at this point.




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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.
    "Surely would have lost"? okaaayyy
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterarthur View Post
    "Surely would have lost"? okaaayyy
    You think the city would have won ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Festus_Hagen View Post
    You think the city would have won ?
    "They" appeared to indicate the Madison 5...
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterarthur View Post
    "They" appeared to indicate the Madison 5...
    No, it doesn't appear that way.

    "The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost."


    "they" refers to "the defendants."

    The Madison 5 were the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Thus, in that quote, "They" appeared to indicate the cops, who would have allegedly been 'forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury." Whether "they [defendants] surely would have lost" is really unknown. The reality is that at least the defendants believed that the judgement instead of the trial was the better course, for whatever reason their legal counsel recommended it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterarthur View Post
    "They" appeared to indicate the Madison 5...
    No, "they" is the defendant, which would be the po-po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrightme View Post
    No, it doesn't appear that way.

    "The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost."


    "they" refers to "the defendants."

    The Madison 5 were the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Thus, in that quote, "They" appeared to indicate the cops, who would have allegedly been 'forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury." Whether "they [defendants] surely would have lost" is really unknown. The reality is that at least the defendants believed that the judgement instead of the trial was the better course, for whatever reason their legal counsel recommended it.
    Yep, I didn't read it carefully. I was thinking of the 5 being charged falsely. And to think, I was once going to teach English I.... must.... read.... slower........ or more carefully at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrightme
    It isn't typical to be able to get out from under the feet of the horses and immediately trample back.
    What a great analogy!
    But actually, they were 'trampling back' even while being trampled.
    And thanks to WCI, it's becoming more & more common to be able to trample back.
    Maybe not as things are going wrong, but at least very shortly after persecution is dropped.
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    The good citizens can only hope that the experience was sufficient to teach the Madison PD the appropriate lessons.

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