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This OC incident made national news: The result!

DWCook

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wow talk about over kill on the officers, I hope they didn't do this on purpose. Much rather hear that the officers were not aware that its legal to "Open Carry".
 

OC for ME

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Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.
 

wrightme

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Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.

When the norm is 'get trampled by horses,' getting out from under the feet of the horses is a reasonable result. It isn't typical to be able to get out from under the feet of the horses and immediately trample back.
While getting what YOU desire out of it might be beneficial, it isn't a realistic outcome to expect at this point.




(post quoted because you will just erase it soon)
 
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peterarthur

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Good news for the Madison 5. Other than that little if anything will change. The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost. In my view, a prime opportunity was lost.

"Surely would have lost"? okaaayyy
 

wrightme

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"They" appeared to indicate the Madison 5...

No, it doesn't appear that way.

"The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost."


"they" refers to "the defendants."

The Madison 5 were the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Thus, in that quote, "They" appeared to indicate the cops, who would have allegedly been 'forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury." Whether "they [defendants] surely would have lost" is really unknown. The reality is that at least the defendants believed that the judgement instead of the trial was the better course, for whatever reason their legal counsel recommended it.
 

peterarthur

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No, it doesn't appear that way.

"The defendants were not forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury, where they surely would have lost."


"they" refers to "the defendants."

The Madison 5 were the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Thus, in that quote, "They" appeared to indicate the cops, who would have allegedly been 'forced to justify their actions and policies in front of a judge and jury." Whether "they [defendants] surely would have lost" is really unknown. The reality is that at least the defendants believed that the judgement instead of the trial was the better course, for whatever reason their legal counsel recommended it.

Yep, I didn't read it carefully. I was thinking of the 5 being charged falsely. And to think, I was once going to teach English :) I.... must.... read.... slower........ or more carefully at least.
 

MKEgal

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wrightme said:
It isn't typical to be able to get out from under the feet of the horses and immediately trample back.
What a great analogy!
But actually, they were 'trampling back' even while being trampled. :rolleyes:
And thanks to WCI, it's becoming more & more common to be able to trample back.
Maybe not as things are going wrong, but at least very shortly after persecution is dropped.
 
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