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    Pay attention!

    Twice in the last two days I've come close to breaking the law unintentionally. So I'm saying this to myself and to my fellow Tennesseans: pay attention to signs at entrances, they do carry the weight of law.

    That being said, I'll share my two incidents. First was yesterday at the local Toys-R-Us. I went in with the fiancee to look for a Christmas present. As I was with the fiancee, I was concealing (she's not too cozy with the idea). Well, after about 5 or 10 minutes in the store I realized I was carrying around a bunch of kids in a toy store, and could imagine how this would look bad to some people. And then it hit me: I didn't look for a sign when I walked in! I walk straight to the entrance and sure enough, they're posted. At that point I was thankful that I was CCing and that nobody saw me. So I go back to my car, lock up the Walther and go back to the store. Only this time I walk in through the Babys-R-Us entrace because it's closer to me, and this is where it gets ironic. The Babys-R-Us entrance isn't posted! So technically I wasn't breaking the law after all (TN requires that all public entrances be posted). But it still reminded me that I need to pay attention. That is until today...

    I work at a hospital, most of which are posted in TN, including ours. We have a parking garage at our hospital with a bridge at the top that connects to the building. Well, the Serpa paddle holster is just SO comfortable. That, coupled with rushing from the holiday traffic that almost caused me to be late, nearly caused me to forget that I was carrying! I made it all the way up the elevator and onto the bridge before I realized my folly. I rode the elevator back down to the floor I was parked on, locked up the gun, entered the building and clocked in with just a couple minutes to spare.

    So I thankfully didn't break any gun laws this week, but came close. I just thought I'd share these stories so that others could learn from my mistakes.
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    I'm wondering what else you do. Pull tags off of mattresses, remove condiments and toothpicks from restaurants, taunt kittens, feed the animals at the Zoo, change lanes without signaling, fail to close the cover before striking. I'm aghast.

    Just don't let it happen again!

    Personally, I'm not running out of the store because I missed one sign, to put my firearm in the car (and have it stolen and used to kill some innocent), but I am very law-abiding. It might be a matter of choices, the lesser of two problems.
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    While the concern about leaving a gun in a vehicle is valid, perhaps it would be better to encourage the use of a secured gun safe.

    Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    While the concern about leaving a gun in a vehicle is valid, perhaps it would be better to encourage the use of a secured gun safe.

    Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules.
    Yeah, I don't know anyone here that does that. You know joking, and stuff. BTW, caffeine-free drinks are good and so is high fiber cereal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    While the concern about leaving a gun in a vehicle is valid, perhaps it would be better to encourage the use of a secured gun safe.

    Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Johnson View Post
    Yeah, I don't know anyone here that does that. You know joking, and stuff. BTW, caffeine-free drinks are good and so is high fiber cereal.
    A good sense of humor surely cannot hurt at times, but suggesting breaking the law is neither funny nor acceptable + could contribute to causing problems for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    While the concern about leaving a gun in a vehicle is valid, perhaps it would be better to encourage the use of a secured gun safe.

    Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules.
    well, that was the point of this thread. Badger carrying in a GFZ is his business. I don't know what state he's from, but in TN it's illegal, so I don't advocate it at all.

    As for a gun safe in a car, I just use the lock on my glove box-that's what it's there for. I don't have a lot of room under my passenger seat (drivers seat is electric, so that's not happening), so I might end up having to put it in the trunk or the rear floor, both visible to prying eyes. The glove box is quicker, easier, and it's not going to draw attention like a safe would. And anyone that has the time and tools to break into my glove box is probably going to have the time and tools to cut the cable to a lock box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    While the concern about leaving a gun in a vehicle is valid, perhaps it would be better to encourage the use of a secured gun safe.

    Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules.
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAxe View Post
    well, that was the point of this thread. Badger carrying in a GFZ is his business. I don't know what state he's from, but in TN it's illegal, so I don't advocate it at all.

    As for a gun safe in a car, I just use the lock on my glove box-that's what it's there for. I don't have a lot of room under my passenger seat (drivers seat is electric, so that's not happening), so I might end up having to put it in the trunk or the rear floor, both visible to prying eyes. The glove box is quicker, easier, and it's not going to draw attention like a safe would. And anyone that has the time and tools to break into my glove box is probably going to have the time and tools to cut the cable to a lock box.
    Badger and I share the same state of residence and are known to each other via this forum. Whether he chooses to follow the law or not is assuredly his business. How or what is posted here is my responsibility and such is not taken lightly.

    The original reference was "Belittling, chiding or otherwise joking about following the law is hardly in keeping with the precepts of OCDO. We do not advocate breaking the law - such is in direct violation of the rules." and that still stands.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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