Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Keep holidays safe, experts say, concerned guns could be left in vehicles with child

  1. #1
    Herr Heckler Koch
    Guest

    Keep holidays safe, experts say, concerned guns could be left in vehicles with child

    http://www.beloitdailynews.com/news/...871e3ce6c.html
    Quote Originally Posted by By Hillary Gavan
    Chief Deputy Coroner Lou Smit urges people to use caution when handling weapons or drinking alcohol, and to be mindful of carbon monoxide. Smit said the holidays are usually busier at his office this time of year, as drinking and driving as well as domestic violence tends to increase.

    With Wisconsin's new concealed carry law, tens of thousands of people are applying for a concealed carry permit, and Smit said many of them may be receiving weapons as gifts this year.

    Although there has been a lot of emphasis on not harming one's self, Smit stressed more attention needs to be given to making sure weapons are locked and away from children. Smit said he's concerned guns could be left in vehicles with children when their parents go into facilities not allowing weapons.
    Here guns are conflated with CO and alcohol that are inanimate and incapable of tort. Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" that are directed by individuals susceptible of tort liability.

  2. #2
    Regular Member thieltech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Beaver Dam
    Posts
    92
    Here guns are conflated with CO and alcohol that are inanimate and incapable of tort. Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" that are directed by individuals susceptible of tort liability.

    english plz

  3. #3
    Regular Member Archangel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    OTP, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    231
    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    http://www.beloitdailynews.com/news/...871e3ce6c.html
    Here guns are conflated with CO and alcohol that are inanimate and incapable of tort. Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" that are directed by individuals susceptible of tort liability.
    What?

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Granite State of Mind
    Posts
    4,510
    They should be more concerned that guns are left in vehicles while people shop where guns are banned, and might be stolen along with other Christmas goodies. Thugs love smash-and-grab in mall parking lots, and they love to find guns almost as much as they love to find gaming platforms and Air Jordans.
    Last edited by KBCraig; 12-25-2011 at 02:28 AM.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    77
    Am I the only one who is more concerned that this article thinks it's normal to leave your KIDS in the car while you're off shopping?

  6. #6
    Regular Member davegran's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Cassville Area -Twelve Miles From Anything, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,565
    Quote Originally Posted by sajuuk View Post
    am i the only one who is more concerned that this article thinks it's normal to leave your kids in the car while you're off shopping?
    Bingo!
    Last edited by davegran; 12-25-2011 at 09:26 AM.
    Dave
    45ACP-For when you care enough to send the very best-
    Fight for "Stand Your Ground " legislation!

    WI DA Gerald R. Fox:
    "These so-called 'public safety' laws only put decent law-abiding citizens at a dangerous disadvantage when it comes to their personal safety, and I for one am glad that this decades-long era of defective thinking on gun issues is over..."

    Remember: Don't make old People mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.

  7. #7
    McX
    Guest
    carbon monoxide, drunks, and family fights.............let's throw guns and kids in there to appear realy politically correct, and concerned for you. They didnt even say: Merry Christmas!

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Fond du Lac Wisconsin
    Posts
    171
    I saw nothing wrong with this article. Many of us on this blog have extensive gun handling experience. But lets face it there are alot of new gun handlers out there. While many of us won't spend our money in "anti" businesses someone new to gun safety might toss their handgun under their seat in a rush at a gas station to go inside to pick up a few things and pay the bill. Kids left in the car who don't grow up around guns and hunting etc. might be courious. It only takes a few seconds for something to happen. I have three family members who expressed interest in getting their CCL. None of them have handguns right now. Two have extensive gun handling experience ... one has none. I gave each a gun vault for a christmas present. If this article helped any new gun owner think about their families safety ... good!

    MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL,

    harold

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North of Madison
    Posts
    177

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by thieltech View Post
    Here guns are conflated with CO and alcohol that are inanimate and incapable of tort. Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" that are directed by individuals susceptible of tort liability.

    english plz
    Welcome to Doug's world. English is not in the vocabulary. LOL!
    May I see your First, Fourth And Thirteenth Amendment Permits, please?

    Guns do not make you a killer. I
    think killing makes you a killer. You can kill
    someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
    trying to ban you from driving to the ball game. (Andy Rooney RIP)

  10. #10
    Herr Heckler Koch
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Packfanatic View Post
    Welcome to Doug's world. English is not in the vocabulary. LOL!
    The 'Doug of all Dougs' sends, with Festivus greetings. "This ought to span their understandings. Thanks for the note"
    Hier werden Gewehren mit CO und Spiritus verschmolzen, die leblos und von der unerlaubten Handlung unfähig sind. Nicht so " Anlagen, die nicht weapons" erlauben; das werden von den Einzelpersonen verwiesen, die von der Handlungshaftung empfindlilch sind.
    Yo Here guns is conflated wif CO an' alcohol dat is inanimate an' incapable o' tort. Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" dat is directed by individuals susceptible o' tort liability otay buh-weet?

  11. #11
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    758
    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    The 'Doug of all Dougs' sends, with Festivus greetings. "This ought to span their understandings. Thanks for the note"
    It's about Damn time! :-D
    "I don't really care for "cream cheese"..."

  12. #12
    Regular Member davegran's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Cassville Area -Twelve Miles From Anything, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,565
    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    carbon monoxide, drunks, and family fights.............let's throw guns and kids in there to appear realy politically correct, and concerned for you. They didnt even say: Merry Christmas!
    Just in October there was a case of an elephant going berserk in Sri Lanka and the Rock County Coroner forgot to tell us to look out for elephants in case there's a parade....
    Dave
    45ACP-For when you care enough to send the very best-
    Fight for "Stand Your Ground " legislation!

    WI DA Gerald R. Fox:
    "These so-called 'public safety' laws only put decent law-abiding citizens at a dangerous disadvantage when it comes to their personal safety, and I for one am glad that this decades-long era of defective thinking on gun issues is over..."

    Remember: Don't make old People mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.

  13. #13
    Regular Member Badger Johnson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,217
    Yeah I look out for soccer moms texting and applying makeup (usually in vain) while driving. One nearly sideswiped our bumper while we were trying to park in front of church. Completely empty one-way street, 10:15 pm Christmas Eve service, three lanes of traffic one way and she tries to ride on top of us, squeals tires runs a red light (or was that her Rudolph-esque nose glowing?)

    Kid in town was killed by someone gawking last week. Had a fender-bender, then (rather stupidly) went and stood between the cars IN the turn lane. Guy comes by gawking and swipes the car, spins it and pins her and she's with the angels. Guy said 'he felt numb'. Yeah, that helps. I don't see a call to ban morons who can't drive (the streets would be deserted).
    Last edited by Badger Johnson; 12-25-2011 at 04:39 PM.
    A gun in a holster is better than one drawn and dispensing bullets. Concealed forces the latter. - ixtow

    Hi, I'm hypercritical. But I mean no harm, I just like to try to look deeply at life

  14. #14
    Regular Member The_Pennsylvanian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Marshfield, WI
    Posts
    65
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Johnson View Post
    Yeah I look out for soccer moms texting and applying makeup (usually in vain) while driving. One nearly sideswiped our bumper while we were trying to park in front of church. Completely empty one-way street, 10:15 pm Christmas Eve service, three lanes of traffic one way and she tries to ride on top of us, squeals tires runs a red light (or was that her Rudolph-esque nose glowing?)

    Kid in town was killed by someone gawking last week. Had a fender-bender, then (rather stupidly) went and stood between the cars IN the turn lane. Guy comes by gawking and swipes the car, spins it and pins her and she's with the angels. Guy said 'he felt numb'. Yeah, that helps. I don't see a call to ban morons who can't drive (the streets would be deserted).


    As a professional driver in the City of Marshfield , known for its horrible drivers , I wrote a little ditty of a folk song about this a few years ago.

    " Minivan Momma , you just cut me off ! Why'd you do that when you turned off in the next block ?
    Minivan Momma , yellin' at your kids kids . Talkin' on yer cell-phone and paintin' yer eyelids !
    Minivan Momma , you're hazardous to my health ! I think that you should put your keys back on the shelf !
    Because then I wouldn't have to try , to drive down these streets and hope not to die ! "
    WI CCL # 27,4XX

  15. #15
    Regular Member MKEgal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    in front of my computer, WI
    Posts
    4,426
    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig
    They should be more concerned that guns are left in vehicles... and might be stolen along with other Christmas goodies. Thugs love smash-and-grab in mall parking lots...
    Quote Originally Posted by Sajuuk
    Am I the only one who is more concerned that this article thinks it's normal to leave your KIDS in the car while you're off shopping?
    +1 on both.
    I guess some reporters don't think through what they write, or maybe some city officials don't think through what they say.

    As for this:
    Here guns are conflated with CO and alcohol that are inanimate and incapable of tort.
    Not so "facilities not allowing weapons" that are directed by individuals susceptible of tort liability.
    Guns, alcohol, & carbon monoxide are made to seem similar.
    They are all non-living & can't do wrong on their own.
    The writer thinks, as many of us do, that people who make decisions to post their establishments as "criminal empowerment zones" are doing wrong & can be held liable when things go terribly wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by MLK, Jr
    The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort & convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge & controversy.
    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie
    Citizenship is a verb.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proverbs 27:12
    A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions.
    The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proverbs 31:17
    She dresses herself with strength and makes her arms strong.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •