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    Bowling or pool anyone

    As Steve from local stated "We have had regular meetings in the southeast part of the state near New Orleans since the beginning."

    I would be willing to meet for bowling or pool at half way point from portland augusta once month through winter months. We could do pizza and talk opencarry. This could be family event for all, bring wife kids girlfriends. If no one shows it's no big deal bowl with the kids/wife and not a waste of the night. Is anyone in?

    New Members you're invited also so don't be bashful, if you've never opened carried and want some support here's your chance!

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    Sounds like a great idea. I'm in.

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    yeah, that does sound like a great idea! I am in as well!

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    i am in!!!


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    When is good for people? I usually get out of work around 6 in South Portland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boyscout399 View Post
    When is good for people? I usually get out of work around 6 in South Portland.
    I'm kinda leaning toward doing something around 700/7:30 either Sat/Sun evening. I'd love to get couple more people though. We have couple new users on the forum. Why don't you join us and meet the guys? I may be able to help with ride if you need trasportation and it's not to far out of way.

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    I'm going to try to make it to the meetup if it's anywhere near L/A, would love to meet some of the group.

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    I typically work until 6pm but will definitely come after.

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    I and my gf may be up for an early January game. If we can find transport.
    If seeing someone openly carrying a gun makes you nervous there is a good chance it is because it forces you to realize that you have chosen to be helpless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarody View Post
    I and my gf may be up for an early January game. If we can find transport.
    We haven't set date of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    We haven't set date of yet.
    And the problem is.......?

    Set time and date, earn a stickie.
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    Shane and I would very much like all open carriers that want to attend bowling to be able to come. Is there a Sat/Sun night at the end of the month that won't work for anyone? If so please let us know? I will contact Shane and try to have date set soon if no one responds with a concern.

    We both are looking forward to spending time with you and receiving your input. Whether you carry or not is up to you.
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    best thing to do is pick a date, time and place. might want to call ahead just to make sure we don't have to find a place impromptu! haha

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    I'm definitely game!!

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    Have you picked a day yet Jon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanebelanger View Post
    Have you picked a day yet Jon?
    I contacted one place and they never got back to me. I'll give them call this weekend maybe? Have had some personal things going on has put opencarry on back burner but will attend to business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I contacted one place and they never got back to me. I'll give them call this weekend maybe? Have had some personal things going on has put opencarry on back burner but will attend to business.
    I called Spare Time today talked to the manager. At first he told me no carrying. I pushed the point questioned no signs and pointed out open and concealed carry is legal within State law? I also pointed out that Wal Mart allows open carry within State Law. He was very nice and is calling Corporate to see if what the policy is going to be?

    I sent Corporate a email few days ago that they didn't reply to. We'll see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I called Spare Time today talked to the manager. At first he told me no carrying. I pushed the point questioned no signs and pointed out open and concealed carry is legal within State law? I also pointed out that Wal Mart allows open carry within State Law. He was very nice and is calling Corporate to see if what the policy is going to be?

    I sent Corporate a email few days ago that they didn't reply to. We'll see?
    We were refused! We are not welcome. I can work on another alley but will wait for comments.


    http://www.sparetimebrunswick.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    We were refused! We are not welcome. I can work on another alley but will wait for comments.


    http://www.sparetimebrunswick.com/
    I used the "contact us" link to send this email:

    I was surprised to hear that your business has chosen to discriminate against the group I belong to and refuse us as customers. Maine Open Carry Association wanted to have a get together at your business which could have become a regular occurrence for us. You have chosen to not allow us there and refuse a dozen customers. In such slow economic times I fail to see why you would choose to refuse a group of well behaved upstanding citizens from a night of entertainment. We were willing to give you guys our hard earned dollars, but apparently, you would rather we frequent your competition. I respect your choice, I just think it's the wrong one from a business standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    We were refused! We are not welcome. I can work on another alley but will wait for comments.


    http://www.sparetimebrunswick.com/
    you've got mail.

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    A reply

    Norman,

    As an avid outdoorsman, NRA member and gun owner, I respect your organization and its principals. Understand that no one is disputing the fact that your members are upstanding citizens and responsible firearms carriers. It is your right and choice to carry firearms openly in public despite what other people think. It is my right and choice, as a business owner, to allow guns in my establishment or not. Obviously, since we are a family recreation center, we do not permit firearms. I would think you would understand that.
    This isn’t a matter of discrimination; it’s a matter of principal. If you can’t go anywhere as a group without your firearms that’s up to you. We would be happy to host your group but the guns would have to stay in the vehicles or at home. I ask you if you think a family bowling next to you would feel comfortable seeing guns in our center? Your organization may not care, but I do. Subjecting any of our customers to such an uncomfortable and controversial issue would be foolish from a business standpoint.
    If our competition allows guns, and you guys can’t recreate without them, then they may be a better fit for your organization. I hope you understand our position.

    Respectfully,

    Tim Corley
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    Bowl New England, Inc.
    And my response:
    Tim,


    From my experience carrying for the past 4 years I have found that the overwhelming majority of businesses allow us without question. I have also found that the overwhelming majority of customers at those businesses have told us that they feel safer not less safe when we are there. I respect your right to refuse our business. I just believe that it's not in your best interest as a business at all. Knowing that you are a gun free establishment makes you a target for crime. With instances of robbery on the rise, I think it would be wise to rethink your position and show people that your business would not be a target for crime because you support everyone's God given right to self defense. It's your property to do with what you wish. We will gladly take our business elsewhere and I will encourage my friends and family not to frequent your establishment.


    Norman
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    You all know the lay of your land and the people there far better than I could possibly guess.

    That said - let me describe how we have handled this in my "neck of the woods":

    We do NOT call or write and ask for permission, not ever.

    We select an establishment and test the waters with 2 or 3 of our number. If all goes well, we tell the manager that we'd like to have a group of people get together one evening in about a month - do we need to make reservations, how should that be handled? Notice I presume that there are going to be no problems. On a one-to-one, face-to-face basis, the manager can see we are carrying and that we are the good guys.

    If there are any objections, they can be addressed then in a cordial manner. We never refer to no signs, or why run good business away - that is argumentative in his place of business. What we do point out is that criminals do not openly carry, that people like to see us and I offer references of places we have been and our acceptance there. Then I suggest that he perhaps think about it and contact other businesses from our references and we'll talk again soon. I leave him with the impression that I respect him and any decision he might make.

    Works for us - hopefully your mileage will not vary too much.
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    I agree with Grapeshot. Mistakes were made, we handled this poorly. In my opinion we should back off and let the dust settle and not push managements decision. In time we can approch them again if we don't back them into corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I agree with Grapeshot. Mistakes were made, we handled this poorly. In my opinion we should back off and let the dust settle and not push managements decision. In time we can approch them again if we don't back them into corner.
    Don't think "mistakes" is the word I'd use. It is all part of a learning curve of what works best in your area.

    We've earned our fair share of lumps and bruises along the way too. Trying hard to not repeat them and profit by what has been experienced. Heck, I even go so far as to take my hat off when talking to a manager type - curtious and shows respect, they can see my eyes better and gives their security cam a good view of my face + BGs don't do that. So body language is a tool that can be weilded effectively too.

    Just sharing thoughts.
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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Smile dead thread???

    so I am new here is this a dead thread??

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