Felid`Maximus
Activist Member
My thoughts on 2012 and beyond California laws:
1. In California, open carry of a large knife (or even sword) might be better for many close range self-defense situations anyway as it is faster to deploy... especially compared to unloaded guns carried in locked cases.
2. Firearms with barrels over 16 inches are not legally capable of being concealed. Smaller examples can be carried in a holster like a typical handgun, therefore not attracting as much attention if carried openly, and can even be concealed. A pistol grip shotgun in a belt scabbard is like a giant holstered handgun that is quick to load and fires several projectiles with a single trigger pull.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2883584/ShotgunUOC.MPG <--- I posted this video here a while ago showing a clumsy draw.
<-- This rifle needs a .5 inch stock extension (sold by Kel-Tec) and a bullet button or grip fin to be legal in California . It folds down to about 16.1" x 7"
<-- 18 inch barreled handgun.
There is also the feather .22 caliber rifle that only weighs 2.5 lbs and is just about 26 inches long with the stock off or folded. (Although I can't get mine to work... I bought one used and broken.)
<-- Exempt from assault weapons rules because it is a .22lr.
3. If one was not concerned at all about attracting attention or bearing a heavy load and just wanted to open carry a long gun on a sling, that would be an option as well. Optionally, you could throw a bayonet on the end of an openly carried rifle to make it more effective before you have time to load it.
The M1-Garand and Short-Magazine-Lee Enfield seem like nice rifles for the ability to quickly put into action. I'm sure there are multitudes of other firearms that would be relatively quick also. Personally however, it seems that big long guns are too heavy, and get in the way too much to be carried on the person regularly, but they'd probably be good "in-the-vehicle" firearms.
In my opinion, a rifle carried slung upside down on the weak shoulder (a.k.a. African Carry) is much faster to bring to action then a rifle carried slung right side up. As a bonus, carrying this way is unlikely to hang up on doorways.
4. Exemptions... one might consider translucent locked case open carry of handguns. [Perhaps an all enclosing, locking, Plexiglas belt holster?] That seems to be the least obtrusive exception, followed with the "entertainment rehearsal" and "charitable organization" exceptions.
5. If I lived in California, I'd consider making my residence in a county where they give out permits more easily, even if I spent a lot of time working or otherwise being in a different county. That way you could do loaded concealed carry and loaded open carry, which is far better than unloaded open carry.
6. Probably in the next three years, California will try and make the restrictions on guns even harsher. They may target long gun carry, make exemptions for handguns harder to come by, and who knows what else.
7. H.R. 822, if it passes the U.S. Senate, would allow people like me who live in Nevada to carry concealed handguns in L.A. and San Francisco. Hopefully, California will respond by making it possible for all people in California to obtain permits. Or California legislators will throw a hissy fit and end all permitting for civilians.
1. In California, open carry of a large knife (or even sword) might be better for many close range self-defense situations anyway as it is faster to deploy... especially compared to unloaded guns carried in locked cases.
2. Firearms with barrels over 16 inches are not legally capable of being concealed. Smaller examples can be carried in a holster like a typical handgun, therefore not attracting as much attention if carried openly, and can even be concealed. A pistol grip shotgun in a belt scabbard is like a giant holstered handgun that is quick to load and fires several projectiles with a single trigger pull.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2883584/ShotgunUOC.MPG <--- I posted this video here a while ago showing a clumsy draw.
<-- This rifle needs a .5 inch stock extension (sold by Kel-Tec) and a bullet button or grip fin to be legal in California . It folds down to about 16.1" x 7"
There is also the feather .22 caliber rifle that only weighs 2.5 lbs and is just about 26 inches long with the stock off or folded. (Although I can't get mine to work... I bought one used and broken.)
3. If one was not concerned at all about attracting attention or bearing a heavy load and just wanted to open carry a long gun on a sling, that would be an option as well. Optionally, you could throw a bayonet on the end of an openly carried rifle to make it more effective before you have time to load it.
The M1-Garand and Short-Magazine-Lee Enfield seem like nice rifles for the ability to quickly put into action. I'm sure there are multitudes of other firearms that would be relatively quick also. Personally however, it seems that big long guns are too heavy, and get in the way too much to be carried on the person regularly, but they'd probably be good "in-the-vehicle" firearms.
In my opinion, a rifle carried slung upside down on the weak shoulder (a.k.a. African Carry) is much faster to bring to action then a rifle carried slung right side up. As a bonus, carrying this way is unlikely to hang up on doorways.
4. Exemptions... one might consider translucent locked case open carry of handguns. [Perhaps an all enclosing, locking, Plexiglas belt holster?] That seems to be the least obtrusive exception, followed with the "entertainment rehearsal" and "charitable organization" exceptions.
5. If I lived in California, I'd consider making my residence in a county where they give out permits more easily, even if I spent a lot of time working or otherwise being in a different county. That way you could do loaded concealed carry and loaded open carry, which is far better than unloaded open carry.
6. Probably in the next three years, California will try and make the restrictions on guns even harsher. They may target long gun carry, make exemptions for handguns harder to come by, and who knows what else.
7. H.R. 822, if it passes the U.S. Senate, would allow people like me who live in Nevada to carry concealed handguns in L.A. and San Francisco. Hopefully, California will respond by making it possible for all people in California to obtain permits. Or California legislators will throw a hissy fit and end all permitting for civilians.
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