Caution ladies and gentlemen - we are going considerably off topic here + the Social Lounge is still subject to Rule 15:
WE ADVOCATE FOR THE 'LAW-ABIDING' ONLY: Posts advocating illegal acts of any kind are NOT welcome here. Even if you feel that a law is unconstitutional we do not break it, we repeal it or defeat it in the courts.
I would remind you that in addition to laws established by organizations outlined in our Constitution, the Constitution itself also constitutes law. Further, our Founders, as do I and many others, held that (inalienable) rights, particularly those established by our creator, supersede law, indeed, that all law should be subject to those inalienable rights.
Put simply, comments intended to show adherence to lesser laws while ignoring higher laws and superseding rights are an affront to freedom-loving peoples.
Yes, I'm well aware of the legal jeopardy of running a website which supports the overthrow of our government, and no, I am not advocating such.
I am saying that with a little word-smithing, you can curb the revolutionary statements while both supporting and defend higher laws, including our Constitution and the inalienable rights upon which our Founders founded it.
Yes, overthrowing a government is "illegal." Yet it was the same folks who did just that who founded our government shortly thereafter. Judging by both their contemporary writings, as well as the provisions they included in both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they were clearly of the same, continuing mind as they were before 1776.
While I agree with you OCDO is not and should not be about revolution, I think it's very important we should be all about the true nature of our country, ranging from current law all the way through our Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and to the foundations upon which our nation was founded, as that's the only way to effectively retain hold of our roots while simultaneously educating our youth as to what it is that has actually worked, and why it has worked.
I do not believe your reminders support this Patriotic American position. If anything, my training as an officer of the United States Military, armed with a commission from the President of the United States himself, says that in all situations, all laws and orders must be weighed against the sum of my own knowledge and judgement.
I was neither chosen to be an officer nor did I become a highly decorated one because I could follow orders (the law). Rather, it was because I knew right from wrong, and had the proper judgement and clear presence of mind to countermand an order or violate a law if doing so served the greater good. 99.99% of the time, I followed orders, followed the law.
When I did not, there were damned good reasons.
Grape, please don't advocate blind adherence to the law even if doing so means violating its spirit. Although I've countermanded a few orders and broken a few laws, I've never wavered from the spirit of The Law. I think perhaps you're confusing the two.
Thank you for your time.
- since9
