SpyderTattoo
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I'm still amazed at people's misuse of the words there, their, and they're. These are three different words and have different meanings. Let's try to use them correctly.
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Scary road rage incident happened to my wife
- Thread starter Metalhead47
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Metalhead47
Regular Member
What am I asking for that's so special? As I said, I'm certainly not the first one to post on a topic like this. And it's a heckuvalot closer to "on topic
" than some of the tangetns we get into.Thanx Bookman. My wife actually carries more than me, about the only time she doesn't is when she's at work, or commuting to/from. Lets just say we are examining options on that front. Yes, snookie was not a threat in this situation, but changer her to one of the roided-out other morons from that show, or had she gotten the door open, that changes the dynamic of the situation entirely.
However, I am seeing a problem with the idea of trying to avoid an obviously disturbed individual while ALSO trying to negotiate rush-hour traffic on 405 AND be on the phone to 911 all at the same time (my wife was able to give 911 a description of the vehicle & partial plate). Pushing that too long seem to beg an accident, which could greatly escalate the whole thing, as well as bring other drivers into it.
thebigsd
Founder's Club Member
They're are times to use the right words but there difficult to figure out when your brain is not their. Your welcome. (yes, I know it's you're.)
As to the OP I agree with those who say to keep driving and attempt to contact 911. Road rage incidents can lead to the innocent party being accused of instigating. This would cloud the issue of whether appropriate deadly force was used.
MSG Laigaie
Campaign Veteran
Some of you may know that my Sweet Baboo was attacked while driving in Mt Vernon last month. Lori was rammed by a drugged up woman in a stolen car. Rather than pulling over and getting out of her miata she moved down the road. She ended up getting hit four times and still maintained control of the vehicle. The flew thru MV at seventy and the BG broke off just before Lori pulled into the Sheriffs parking lot. The BG drove into a house and MVPD got her. Lori was unarmed that night. I don't like thinking about what she would have done if her vehicle had been disabled. She's scrappy though. Keep the pistol where you can get to it and keep wasp spray in the glovebox sounds better to her now.
SovereignAxe
Regular Member
ROFL if I could upvote you or "like" this I would
gogodawgs
Campaign Veteran
Really GoGo?This is a forum where general self defense, especially as it relates to Washington law, is frequently discussed.
Yes but you state:
What am I asking for that's so special? As I said, I'm certainly not the first one to post on a topic like this. And it's a heckuvalot closer to "on topic
Yes, snookie was not a threat in this situation, but changer her to one of the roided-out other morons from that show, or had she gotten the door open, that changes the dynamic of the situation entirely.
However, I am seeing a problem with the idea of trying to avoid an obviously disturbed individual while ALSO trying to negotiate rush-hour traffic on 405 AND be on the phone to 911 all at the same time (my wife was able to give 911 a description of the vehicle & partial plate). Pushing that too long seem to beg an accident, which could greatly escalate the whole thing, as well as bring other drivers into it.
And BigDave concurs:
So you state that she is not a threat, therefore not self-defense related and others concur. The only thing I see is that your wife illegally pulled over on the side of a freeway.
Metalhead47
Regular Member
So you don't consider attempted carjacking and assault a self defense matter? Pulling over on the freeway is perfectly legal in an emergency. You do not consider a deranged individual who has already broken enough laws for an aggressive driving charge trying to cause an accident and run someone off the road an emergency?
Really man, I expected better from you. Will you be so quick to jump on the next person who posts one of these what if encounters?
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FMJ 911
Regular Member
Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with "Putting it to the wood" and just getting the hell away from the enemy driver. Yeah, just try to keep up with my '68 Porsche 911. Simple steps to get away: While driving at 55-60 MPH Drop gearbox into 3rd, push accelerator pedal to the floor and hold it there until the tachometer hits redline(7,000 RPM), then quickly shift to 4th gear. You'll be at 100 MPH in a flash.
If driving with an Automatic, then just push the accelerator to the floor and keep it there. My Dad has been chased before, and that's what he did. Never stop, that gives them the chance to get the jump on you. Never get out of your car either. Also make sure to call 911 if someone pursues you.
I have had people flip me krap on the freeway, but they never followed me when I took an exit.
My idea is to simply rocket away and leave their sight. they can't chase something they can't see.
There's other options besides mine. Use what works for you.
If driving with an Automatic, then just push the accelerator to the floor and keep it there. My Dad has been chased before, and that's what he did. Never stop, that gives them the chance to get the jump on you. Never get out of your car either. Also make sure to call 911 if someone pursues you.
I have had people flip me krap on the freeway, but they never followed me when I took an exit.
My idea is to simply rocket away and leave their sight. they can't chase something they can't see.
There's other options besides mine. Use what works for you.
Bucks Gun Shop
Regular Member
Metal:
Here is my $0.02 on this highly illicit thread... Sounds to me like to have a "together" wife... Keep her around... The only thing that I believe she did wrong was pulling over... While I understand her concern about someone causing an accident -- her number 1 priority in this situation is her own safety... Hate to say it, but to hell with everyone else... Next time - focus on escape and evasion and then dial 911... Let the police sort it all out...
I am glad that she is safe!!!!
Here is my $0.02 on this highly illicit thread... Sounds to me like to have a "together" wife... Keep her around... The only thing that I believe she did wrong was pulling over... While I understand her concern about someone causing an accident -- her number 1 priority in this situation is her own safety... Hate to say it, but to hell with everyone else... Next time - focus on escape and evasion and then dial 911... Let the police sort it all out...
I am glad that she is safe!!!!
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Don't worry about it Metal. If the mods haven't shut you down just keep on keeping on. It's not like they haven't had or contributed to off topic threads themselves. It's just they don't like yours for some reason. Bookman is spot on in his assessment.
Or you could even ask for this thread to be moved to Social Lounge.
skiingislife725
Regular Member
Geez some people need to relax a bit...by my count, it looks like half of the posts on the first page aren't directly related to OC. If we didn't have these posts that are quasi-related to OC, then all we'd be talking about is when to meet again for coffee.
Now, to the armchair quarterbacking! Metal, it sounds like your wife did pretty well...but I'm thinking that if she didn't have anything to back herself up with (mace/firearm/flamethrower/etc), I would have kept driving. But then again, I'm always jumping to the what-if's and the worst-cases and want to be prepared for it.
Oh and MSG, you mentioned that your wife is going to be or has been carrying wasp spray? Any reason why she'd be better off using this versus a product designed for defense? Don't get me wrong, you use whats accessible at the time, but I'd rather set myself up with something with a more proven track record like OC spray which turns 95% of us into instant whiny biatch. There's also, if I remember right, the warning on the wasp spray about it being a federal crime to use the product in a manner not intended (i.e. using a toxin on another human being)...but this is obviously a secondary reason, the first being I'd rather have something I know will likely stop someone. Anyways, not doggin' on ya MSG, just want us to be safe and prepared with the right equipment out there...especially in Mount Vernon. lol
Now, to the armchair quarterbacking! Metal, it sounds like your wife did pretty well...but I'm thinking that if she didn't have anything to back herself up with (mace/firearm/flamethrower/etc), I would have kept driving. But then again, I'm always jumping to the what-if's and the worst-cases and want to be prepared for it.
Oh and MSG, you mentioned that your wife is going to be or has been carrying wasp spray? Any reason why she'd be better off using this versus a product designed for defense? Don't get me wrong, you use whats accessible at the time, but I'd rather set myself up with something with a more proven track record like OC spray which turns 95% of us into instant whiny biatch. There's also, if I remember right, the warning on the wasp spray about it being a federal crime to use the product in a manner not intended (i.e. using a toxin on another human being)...but this is obviously a secondary reason, the first being I'd rather have something I know will likely stop someone. Anyways, not doggin' on ya MSG, just want us to be safe and prepared with the right equipment out there...especially in Mount Vernon. lol
amlevin
Regular Member
But isn't it's intended purpose to deal with Pests? Besides, it's less lethal than 124gr of jacketed lead.
Then there's also hairspray and a lighter. Even if you miss it sends a clear message.
Metalhead47
Regular Member
Thanks for the support guys. I concur that in 99% of such situations escape & evasion is the order of the day, but my wife is adamant that due to conditions as they were at that specific time, that just wasn't an option, so I believe her. Best advice I've heard so far is OC spray, kind of a "DUH!" moment. That's not something either one of us could carry around on a daily basis but could easily live in the truck (among other things now
Oh, one more note, this whole thing didn't get started because she was going too fast or not paying attention. Drive around here long enough and one will see that other people will randomly slam on their brakes for no apparent reason, or do other things that demand a quick response. Simply slamming on your own brakes isn't necessarily the most prudent option. And since snookie was also alone in her vehicle, she shouldn't have been in the HOV lane in the first place...
FMCDH
Regular Member
Just FYI
After 1900 hours, anyone can use the HOV lane on 405. The times of use are posted on most all the signs.
MSG Laigaie
Campaign Veteran
Sweet Baboo and I went down to the VA hospital today for a sched appointment. That put us on I5 for about three hours driving time(down&up). We saw a bunch with phones in their ears, One was actually texting on an I pad while balancing it on the steering wheel. The best was the woman holding a bowl of cereal in the left hand, spoon in the right going from bowl to mouth. Steering the car with her knees. Let's just be careful out there!