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    1000 down and time to see the show

    I read and sorted through close to a thousand bills last night, have a list of 22 both bad and good....now, it's time to go see who gets appointed to what and how much arm twisting is needed.

    Sen. Edwards has at least one FOIA bill that should be of interest here:

    SB 107
    Edwards
    "Amends the definition of ""criminal investigative file"" so that the exemption applies to records relating to active or ongoing investigations or prosecutions."
    General Laws

    BUT

    He also has one that needs to die a quick death:

    SB 96
    Edwards
    Provides that it is a Class 6 felony for a person to publish on the Internet a photograph or video made in violation of the current law prohibiting filming, videotaping, or photographing a nonconsenting person in certain situations where there is an expectation of privacy.
    Courts of Justice

    Let the show begin!
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    Here's is what I can find so far.. some of these are less than helpful from a my Pro 2A, Libertarian point of view.


    I presume "a" Castle Doctrine bill will become law this session, we have at least four filed so far.
    Unfortunately, imho, we are guaranteed to have a bad Castle Doctrine law come July 1.

    Some of this Bills are down right damaging. You can decide for yourselves.
    I suggest you read the enitre text of the Bills, here is a link.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?121+lst+ALL



    HB 14- Persons acting in defense of property; civil immunity provided for an occupant of dwelling, etc.

    HB 22- Firearms; disposition thereof acquired by localities.

    HB 25- Concealed handgun permits; confidentiality of permittee information.

    HB 26- Concealed handgun permit; failure to produce upon demand of a law-enforcement officer, penalty.

    HB 47- Persons acting in defense of property; civil immunity provided for an occupant of dwelling, etc.

    HB 48- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    HB 139- Concealed handguns; persons who may lawfully carry hidden from common observation, penalty.

    HB 172- Hunting; knowingly trespassing while carrying a firearm, penalty.

    HB 237- Criminal history record information checks upon handgun purchases; dissemination of information.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...ks-upon-handgun

    HB 288- Courthouses; exception from prohibition against carrying weapon for city and county treasurers

    HB 364- Criminal history recordinformation; record check to be performed on prospective transferee

    SB 4- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    SB 26- Conservation police officers; clarifies authority.

    SB 64- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    SB 67- Concealed handgun permit applications; removes option for locality to require fingerprints.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...ns-fingerprints

    HB 375- Firearms; workplace rules by localities.

    HB 458 Control of firearms; libraries owned by localities.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...gun-bill-so-far

    HB 592- Criminal history record information check; exemption for concealed handgun permittees.

    Not directly 2A related but does/can effect 2A
    HB 227- Expungement when a nolle prosequi is taken.

    HJ 17- Constitutional amendment; restoration of civil rights to persons convicted of felonies, etc.

    SB 26- Conservation police officers; clarifies authority.

    SB 107- Freedom of Information Act; criminal investigative records

    HB 369- Hunting on Sundays



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    The easiest ex. but probably the most difficult to grasp for gun owners is that fool permission slip so many of you have, especially if you show it off with pride. You should recognize it as an embarrassment, an infringement, a travesty and an affront to a free person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent19 View Post
    Here's is what I can find so far.. some of these are less than helpful from a my Pro 2A, Libertarian point of view.


    I presume "a" Castle Doctrine bill will become law this session, I we have at least four filed so far.
    Unfortunately, imho, we are guaranteed to have a bad Castle Doctrine law come July 1.

    Some of this Bills are down right damaging. You can decide for yourselves.
    I suggest you read the enitre text of the Bills, here is a link.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?121+lst+ALL



    HB 14- Persons acting in defense of property; civil immunity provided for an occupant of dwelling, etc.

    HB 22- Firearms; disposition thereof acquired by localities.

    HB 25- Concealed handgun permits; confidentiality of permittee information.

    HB 26- Concealed handgun permit; failure to produce upon demand of a law-enforcement officer, penalty.

    HB 47- Persons acting in defense of property; civil immunity provided for an occupant of dwelling, etc.

    HB 48- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    HB 139- Concealed handguns; persons who may lawfully carry hidden from common observation, penalty.

    HB 172- Hunting; knowingly trespassing while carrying a firearm, penalty.

    HB 237- Criminal history record information checks upon handgun purchases; dissemination of information.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...ks-upon-handgun

    HB 288- Courthouses; exception from prohibition against carrying weapon for city and county treasurers

    HB 364- Criminal history recordinformation; record check to be performed on prospective transferee

    SB 4- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    SB 26- Conservation police officers; clarifies authority.

    SB 64- Castle doctrine; self-defense and defense of others.

    SB 67- Concealed handgun permit applications; removes option for locality to require fingerprints.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...ns-fingerprints

    HB 375- Firearms; workplace rules by localities.

    HB 458 Control of firearms; libraries owned by localities.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showth...gun-bill-so-far

    HB 592- Criminal history record information check; exemption for concealed handgun permittees.

    Not directly 2A related but does/can effect 2A
    HB 227- Expungement when a nolle prosequi is taken.

    HJ 17- Constitutional amendment; restoration of civil rights to persons convicted of felonies, etc.

    SB 26- Conservation police officers; clarifies authority.

    SB 107- Freedom of Information Act; criminal investigative records

    HB 369- Hunting on Sundays



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    Thanks M!
    I'll put them on the list.

    Except for the ones we consider harmful to us, we try to just support VCDL's position on Gun Bills without interfering. The line gets a little thin sometimes.

    This year We're taking a separate position on Constitutional Carry and a couple of others just to add numbers to VCDL (There are only 50 couple OV supporters that are also VCDL members).

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    Thumbs up The line gets a little thin sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Thanks M!


    Except for the ones we consider harmful to us, we try to just support VCDL's position on Gun Bills without interfering. The line gets a little thin sometimes.
    My pleasure.
    I understand and appreciate that point of view.

    See you Monday.
    Last edited by Marco; 01-11-2012 at 11:03 AM.
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
    The easiest ex. but probably the most difficult to grasp for gun owners is that fool permission slip so many of you have, especially if you show it off with pride. You should recognize it as an embarrassment, an infringement, a travesty and an affront to a free person.


    ~Alan Korwin

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    1. They're making the House assignments now. Things are a mess here today. Obama's wife is here and the pace is crawling withSS State Police and others. Finding the Chair Assignments in the Senate is going to be challanging right now and on top of that, their guest wifi is down.
    2. I'm on my cell phone doing this.
    3. Got my parking reserved for next week.
    4. Going down to start discussing bills now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    1. They're making the House assignments now. Things are a mess here today. Obama's wife is here and the pace is crawling withSS State Police and others. Finding the Chair Assignments in the Senate is going to be challanging right now and on top of that, their guest wifi is down.
    Why?

    On topic: Is VCDL going to get a legislative tracking tool up? I was kind of surprised that one isn't up yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VApatriot View Post
    Why?

    On topic: Is VCDL going to get a legislative tracking tool up? I was kind of surprised that one isn't up yet.
    Why what?
    Was Obama's wife there....probably to irritate me. It worked.
    Am I having trouble getting the House assignments...because I'm in Senate room B and the wifi isn't working.
    Am I having trouble getting the Senate chair assignments, because they've been fighting over SR1 all day, several hours in private, and they haven't gotten to assignments.

    I had to be out of my parking space by 4:00 and they're still bickering.

    I have no idea what VCDL has up. You need to ask them that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Why what?
    Was Obama's wife there....probably to irritate me. It worked.
    Yeah, that one.

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    4:39 and still no Senate assignments.
    McDonnell's state of the union address is tonight I think. I wonder if this is going to carry over until tomorrow?
    Last edited by peter nap; 01-11-2012 at 04:42 PM.

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    oh to be a fly on the wall in that chamber...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mk4 View Post
    oh to be a fly on the wall in that chamber...
    They're in open session now. The real fun would have been during that couple of hour lunch break.
    I have video of McEachin demanding fairness. He was voted down.
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    The State Police even had their armored car out...I guess the squirrels posed a serious threat


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