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    Binions casino 86'd

    So I decided to play some no limit poker at binions casino down on Freemont st. We just got done with a big job at work and wanted to celebrate a little and booze it up. I went with my family and a lady friend who was going to drive us home since I would be drinking. I left my firearm in a locked box inside my trunk (I should have just left it at home but hey, stuff happens). I went to binions and got some chips while the family did their thing. About 2 hours into my poker stay somebody mentions firearms. The talk then goes to how it is illegal to have a firearm in a casino. I haven't said a word at this point. I finally chime in (albeit after a few cocktails) how they are wrong. One guy tells me I'm full of s*&t and should cease from speaking. I offer to bet him $1000 bucks if he could point to a law on the books stating it is illegal. Well the floorman came over at that point and told me I had to leave...WTF!! He says I am wrong and he knows that it is illegal. I walk away and light a smoke. I'm calm and collected and really did not make a scene at all. Then security arrives. The floorman hands me my cash (btw made 50 bucks an hour) and I put it in my wallet. As I pull my wallet out security tells me to keep my hands where they can see them. I let out a "HA SERIOUSLY?" Yes sir we need to see your hands. Well being one who is not fond of being told what I can and cannot do I told him that I do not recognize his authority over me and to refrain from giving me orders as I am leaving. He didn't like that very much. As I am making my way out 10 or so people are now following me including the floorman. Metro is outside on their bikes. Once outside I asked the floorman if he wanted to wager 1000 bucks on the matter and we could have metro take our statement then draw up a contract and have the DA's office confirm in the morning. He declined. Trouble always seems to find me!

    I figured I would share this story with you guys and hopefully you can find some humor in the matter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    So I decided to play some no limit poker at binions casino down on Freemont st. We just got done with a big job at work and wanted to celebrate a little and booze it up. I went with my family and a lady friend who was going to drive us home since I would be drinking. I left my firearm in a locked box inside my trunk (I should have just left it at home but hey, stuff happens). I went to binions and got some chips while the family did their thing. About 2 hours into my poker stay somebody mentions firearms. The talk then goes to how it is illegal to have a firearm in a casino. I haven't said a word at this point. I finally chime in (albeit after a few cocktails) how they are wrong. One guy tells me I'm full of s*&t and should cease from speaking. I offer to bet him $1000 bucks if he could point to a law on the books stating it is illegal. Well the floorman came over at that point and told me I had to leave...WTF!! He says I am wrong and he knows that it is illegal. I walk away and light a smoke. I'm calm and collected and really did not make a scene at all. Then security arrives. The floorman hands me my cash (btw made 50 bucks an hour) and I put it in my wallet. As I pull my wallet out security tells me to keep my hands where they can see them. I let out a "HA SERIOUSLY?" Yes sir we need to see your hands. Well being one who is not fond of being told what I can and cannot do I told him that I do not recognize his authority over me and to refrain from giving me orders as I am leaving. He didn't like that very much. As I am making my way out 10 or so people are now following me including the floorman. Metro is outside on their bikes. Once outside I asked the floorman if he wanted to wager 1000 bucks on the matter and we could have metro take our statement then draw up a contract and have the DA's office confirm in the morning. He declined. Trouble always seems to find me!

    I figured I would share this story with you guys and hopefully you can find some humor in the matter!
    I think it would have been much more humorous if when told to show your hands you would have done so by shooting the wanna be cop/security clown two middle fingers and stating, "There ya go; take a good look at my hands, pal!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    So I decided to play some no limit poker at binions casino down on Freemont st. We just got done with a big job at work and wanted to celebrate a little and booze it up. I went with my family and a lady friend who was going to drive us home since I would be drinking. I left my firearm in a locked box inside my trunk (I should have just left it at home but hey, stuff happens). I went to binions and got some chips while the family did their thing. About 2 hours into my poker stay somebody mentions firearms. The talk then goes to how it is illegal to have a firearm in a casino. I haven't said a word at this point. I finally chime in (albeit after a few cocktails) how they are wrong. One guy tells me I'm full of s*&t and should cease from speaking. I offer to bet him $1000 bucks if he could point to a law on the books stating it is illegal. Well the floorman came over at that point and told me I had to leave...WTF!! He says I am wrong and he knows that it is illegal. I walk away and light a smoke. I'm calm and collected and really did not make a scene at all. Then security arrives. The floorman hands me my cash (btw made 50 bucks an hour) and I put it in my wallet. As I pull my wallet out security tells me to keep my hands where they can see them. I let out a "HA SERIOUSLY?" Yes sir we need to see your hands. Well being one who is not fond of being told what I can and cannot do I told him that I do not recognize his authority over me and to refrain from giving me orders as I am leaving. He didn't like that very much. As I am making my way out 10 or so people are now following me including the floorman. Metro is outside on their bikes. Once outside I asked the floorman if he wanted to wager 1000 bucks on the matter and we could have metro take our statement then draw up a contract and have the DA's office confirm in the morning. He declined. Trouble always seems to find me!

    I figured I would share this story with you guys and hopefully you can find some humor in the matter!

    Greengum, Last time you were tossed at least, you did have an empty holster. You have are real talent, the occasional open carry poster here who does have a negative issue usually has a firearm on them. You have the ability to gets tossed on a firearm issue without one. That is impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    Trouble always seems to find me!

    I figured I would share this story with you guys and hopefully you can find some humor in the matter!
    To bad you didn't have this pic on your phone.

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    Just had someone in my office yesterday try to tell me it's illegal to CCW in a strip club... Adamantly declared it's illegal. Just rolled my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 28kfps View Post
    Greengum, Last time you were tossed at least, you did have an empty holster. You have are real talent, the occasional open carry poster here who does have a negative issue usually has a firearm on them. You have the ability to gets tossed on a firearm issue without one. That is impressive.
    More than that, it shows the hoplophobes' paranoia -- they get weak knees if someone even THINKS about a firearm.

    When the rentacops said they had to see his hands, he should have folded his arms and waited for their next move. No law permits a private property owner to dictate that any part of your body must be visible.

    Just FYI, a private property owner DOES NOT have the right to violate your privacy by demanding identification unless there is a law SPECIFICALLY permitting this and setting limits -- for instance, you have to show your ID when you check into the hotel, but not at any other time -- nor can they search your person, car, closed packages (such as luggage), etc. They CAN detain you if they have the same probable cause as would permit law enforcement to do so, they CAN require you to leave, and they CAN enforce that requirement in whatever manner is appropriate.

    They can also be SUED for doing so in an UNREASONABLE way. If you are not causing a disturbance, but THEY do with their actions (such as discussing this in a way which draws attention, or the parade of 20 people to escort one cooperative person out), they can be gone after for the public humiliation that you were put through -- especially if there is no arrest.

    Next time I'm down in the Sharp End, I'll have to drop by Binion's and start talking about guns. I can use the money I'll get from the lawsuit after they freak out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrey123 View Post
    Just had someone in my office yesterday try to tell me it's illegal to CCW in a strip club... Adamantly declared it's illegal. Just rolled my eyes.
    That's when you put $20 on the desk and tell them to cover the bet -- with 30 minutes to find the law online -- or admit that they don't know what they are talking about.

    My religious beliefs prohibit me from gambling, so when someone who knows me sees me do that, they tend to get real quiet, real quick, because I'm NOT gambling -- I'm collecting my fee for helping them learn something that they didn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC View Post
    They can also be SUED for doing so in an UNREASONABLE way. If you are not causing a disturbance, but THEY do with their actions (such as discussing this in a way which draws attention, or the parade of 20 people to escort one cooperative person out), they can be gone after for the public humiliation that you were put through -- especially if there is no arrest.
    Would that work for a gov entity like the DMV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC View Post
    More than that, it shows the hoplophobes' paranoia -- they get weak knees if someone even THINKS about a firearm.

    When the rentacops said they had to see his hands, he should have folded his arms and waited for their next move. No law permits a private property owner to dictate that any part of your body must be visible.

    Just FYI, a private property owner DOES NOT have the right to violate your privacy by demanding identification unless there is a law SPECIFICALLY permitting this and setting limits -- for instance, you have to show your ID when you check into the hotel, but not at any other time -- nor can they search your person, car, closed packages (such as luggage), etc. They CAN detain you if they have the same probable cause as would permit law enforcement to do so, they CAN require you to leave, and they CAN enforce that requirement in whatever manner is appropriate.
    I was open carrying at the Laughlin River run last year. I even did a test ride while OCing. Was in one of the large parking lot vendor areas when two plain clothed guys came up behind me and got my attention and asked for my ID. It gave me great pleasure because of the additional training I have received from this forum, to smile and at him and politely say,I am pretty sure I have no obligation to show you my ID. My reply totally messed him up. With his head cocked like a confused puppy dog, it took him a while to figure out what to say after that. If I remember correctly he started with words like it is illegal to, he stopped short, then said, they are not allowed in, stopped short with that one, as I was smiling at him waiting to pounce on whatever the incorrect statement was going to be.
    To make my story short, he did finally say guns were not allowed on the property. At that time I was ready to leave decided to help him out and said if you are asking me to leave I willing to do that and left for home. One of my more enjoyable River Run visits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC View Post
    More than that, it shows the hoplophobes' paranoia -- they get weak knees if someone even THINKS about a firearm.
    In my opinion, that for the most part in a nutshell is the bulk of the motivation of the anti gun movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 28kfps View Post
    Greengum, Last time you were tossed at least, you did have an empty holster. You have are real talent, the occasional open carry poster here who does have a negative issue usually has a firearm on them. You have the ability to gets tossed on a firearm issue without one. That is impressive.
    It must be my girlish good looks!

    I will say it was very stupid of me to even join in on the conversation. We were short handed in one of the easiest games I have been in. 4 other players, one was a retired guy who never bluffs and will pay you off out of fear he will get bluffed. Then a guy who shook his left leg when he was weak or bluffing. I thought it was a reverse tell because it was so obvious but nope. Then we had 2 guys who were 3 sheets to the wind. Such is life I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabotage70 View Post
    Would that work for a gov entity like the DMV?
    Yes, but the defense has much deeper pockets, better lawyers, and not much worry about their public image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackOR View Post
    It's unfortunate, because most of you on this forum bastardize OC'ing and weapons in general, you've turned a self defense weapon into a reason to look for conflict...I bet you $1000 you with your little piece of **** handgun don't measure up anywhere near me and my combat experience...you wanna find out? I'll be happy to.
    I find it ironic that you would claim some here have perverted the self-defense nature of OC, while you yourself seem to be turning the defensive nature of OC into an offensive one; you seem to be "looking for conflict" with your veiled threats. What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackOR View Post
    It's unfortunate, because most of you on this forum bastardize OC'ing and weapons in general, you've turned a self defense weapon into a reason to look for conflict...I bet you $1000 you with your little piece of **** handgun don't measure up anywhere near me and my combat experience...you wanna find out? I'll be happy to.


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    My combat experience can kick your combat experience's butt.


    Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. Plus... you don't mess with old guys. We have "old guy strength"
    Last edited by FallonJeeper; 01-25-2012 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallonJeeper View Post

    Plus... you don't mess with old guys. We have "old guy strength"
    Old guy strength? So that is what they are calling viagra nowadays, eh?
    Last edited by ed2276; 01-25-2012 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2276 View Post
    Old guy strength? So that is what they are calling viagra nowadays, eh?
    Haven't you heard? They're changing the name of that tourist attraction to "Viagra Falls."

    JackOR does make a valid point -- sometimes we do take OC as a crusade. He fails to understand, however, that this is sometimes necessary. NO civil right has ever been recognized without activism.
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    I don't see it so much as looking for trouble, or a crusade, but you're right. You have to be willing to put yourself out there. Not to incite a riot, but to have a chance to demonstrate a right, and maybe an opportunity to educate.

    I don't need no stinkin' viagra. ;o)

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    What's Viagra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    What's Viagra?
    The stuff that nursing homes give old men to keep them from rolling out of bed at night.

    Q: How can you tell when someone died from a Viagra overdose?

    A: When you bury him, you only need a stick and a nail to make the cross for his grave.

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