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Herr Heckler Koch
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Introduced by Steineke, co-sponsored by Lasee, referred to Bies' committee yesterday.
Anyone have a link to the text?
Anyone have a link to the text?
Introduced by Steineke, co-sponsored by Lasee, referred to Bies' committee yesterday. Anyone have a link to the text?
Yes, thank you. That's why I asked, that I was not able to find the text of another worrisome bill.But the text doesn't appear to be available for AB-479. ... I am just so sick/tired of all these "special" privileges for LEO.
One step forward at a time. Then we will get to the goal. I see every step that loosen's firearms laws as a step forward.
I see every step that gives agents of the government more power/privilege than the average citizen as another LOSS by/for the average citizen. LEO having even more power/privilege is NOT a step forward for freedom, it is a step forward for control.
Needs to be amended so that it allows everyone to get the permit free, not just the more equal people.
i see every step that gives agents of the government more power/privilege than the average citizen as another loss by/for the average citizen. Leo having even more power/privilege is not a step forward for freedom, it is a step forward for control.
Here is the link to AB-299: http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/proposals/ab299
And there is also AB-479: http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/proposals/AB479
But the text doesn't appear to be available for AB-479. Both appear to be removing the requirement that LEO pay the SAME TAX and get the SAME PERMIT as the rest of us.
I am just so sick/tired of all these "special" privileges for LEO.
Needs to be amended so that it allows everyone to get the permit free, not just the more equal people.
If everyone is getting a CCL for free, why even have them then?
Actually, if what the two LEOs in my training class said had any merit, they are more restricted than regular citizens at the moment. Picture ID, yearly renewal, and live fire testing on specific platforms.
Esp. since they're illegal.bnhcomputing said:I am just so sick/tired of all these "special" privileges for LEO.
So any officer, on duty or not, assigned to the school or not, in uniform or not, could waltz into your kids' school with a hidden loaded gun.[grounds of a school discussion]
This bill eliminates the requirement that the officer be acting in his or her official capacity if:
the officer is authorized to carry a firearm;
the officer is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the law enforcement agency that could result in the suspension or loss of his or her law enforcement authority;
the officer is qualified under standards established by the law enforcement agency to use a firearm;
the law enforcement officer is not prohibited under federal law from possessing a firearm;
the firearm is not a machine gun or a destructive device, such as a bomb;
the officer is not carrying a firearm silencer;
and the officer is not under the influence of an intoxicant
From the text of the bill:Under this bill, DOJ must provide a license to carry a concealed weapon to all law enforcement officers without the fee, background check, or training required by applicants who are not law enforcement officers.
Why? Worried that those DV charges would disqualify them? Or maybe the felony DUI conviction?The department may not conduct a background check on individuals who are to be issued a license under sub. (2) (a) 2.
[that's the "all law enforcement officers get free licenses" section]
Actually, if what the two LEOs in my training class said had any merit, they are more restricted than regular citizens at the moment. Picture ID, yearly renewal, and live fire testing on specific platforms.
It would be a little annoying if former and retired LEOs got treated differently, but I don't think I am going to lose any sleep over currently employed LEOs having the state cover the fees. LEOs have a long track record of effectively defending themselves and others with concealed weapons up until the time the CCL came to Wisconsin, I don't see why that is likely to change. I WANT everybody to carry. The bad guys will move out of state, change their ways, or Darwin themselves. Everybody is safer then.