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    I love Guns and Coffee counter Protest 2-14-12 at a Starbucks near you!


    An anti-gun group is attempting to organize a nationwide Valentine's Day boycott of Starbucks over the coffee chain's gun policy. See: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...ver-gun-policy.

    Gun owners NATIONWIDE should support their local Starbucks and thank them for serving great drinks and not getting involved in the gun debate.

    Feel free to TIP them as well! We are better customers than the anti's!

    SHARE THIS EVENT FAR AND WIDE!
    GUN OWNERS COUNTER PROTEST:
    http://www.facebook.com/events/261743290558881/
    Carry On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriff View Post
    Their little boycott doesn't amount to diddly squat
    The gun owners counter protest is already over double what their numbers are on Facebook.
    http://www.facebook.com/events/261743290558881/
    Carry On.

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    Stick it to the Anti-Gunners, buy a cup of coffee on Valentine's Day!!

    The National Gun Victims Action Council is calling for a boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day because Starbucks follows State law and says you should be allowed to defend yourself in their stores. (http://gunvictimsaction.org/starbucks-boycott/)

    What better way to show them that OUR hearts are in the right place than to buy a cup of joe at Starbucks on Valentines Day. Yeah, it's a little pricey and I normally just drink the mud I make a home, but on Feb. 14, I plan on joining with some friends at one of the Starbucks in Alexandria to support them because they support us. I'll also be open carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriff View Post
    I would have to take out a 2nd mortgage to afford a Starbucks!

    Their little boycott doesn't amount to diddly squat. It's just like gas-out days, people still need gas and people still buy gas. I would venture to guess that less than a dozen people in the city I live in even know about this boycott on Valentine's Day.
    Geese, with that approach I'm surprised we even have gun rights left. Give me an address and I'll send you a gift certificate for a cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    The gun owners counter protest is already over double what their numbers are on Facebook.
    http://www.facebook.com/events/261743290558881/
    I think people are starting to see that guns are not the threat they were made out to be. Only the emotionally immature still look at it that way. Still, it'd be good to buy a cup of coffee and thank them for taking a neutral stance and having a coroporate policy of following state laws. Which is nothing more or less than the position they should take. I think you could make an argument that a company should support Constitutional rights as such but from a business perspective I've always thought it foolish for a business to get into political issues. You always offend somebody when you do and that's not what a good business should do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Geese, with that approach I'm surprised we even have gun rights left. Give me an address and I'll send you a gift certificate for a cup.

    No need to do that, I plan to hit my local Starbuck's and buy a beverage for at least the next 5 folks in line behind me.
    D, some like to talk chit but do little to help, that approach is why others have to work extra hard.
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
    The easiest ex. but probably the most difficult to grasp for gun owners is that fool permission slip so many of you have, especially if you show it off with pride. You should recognize it as an embarrassment, an infringement, a travesty and an affront to a free person.


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    I'm in!

    In fact, I'll hit a couple local Starbucks on VT Day and stay awhile. OCing of course and proudly wearing an orange "Guns Save Lives" sticker promeniently displayed for any antis who might be around.

    Actually, it'd be cool to have a NoVA meet-up of OCDO members at a Starbucks that day if not for the fact that corporate Starbucks has discouraged large-group displays of OC. Believe that came from the CEO himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent19 View Post
    No need to do that, I plan to hit my local Starbuck's and buy a beverage for at least the next 5 folks in line behind me.
    D, some like to talk chit but do little to help, that approach is why others have to work extra hard.
    nice idea. might just do it.

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    I also plan to go to Starbucks in support. Let's not forget that not only does Starbucks have a pro-gun policy, they have also publicly defended it.
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    I think out of everything gun related this simple mindedness bothers me the most. Showing statistics that really have nothing ri do with the topic yet people eat it up. Ill be OCing on VT day and leaving a hefty tip. It really angers me when people use other countries gun statistics to try and sway the public.

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    This is the mass email that they are sending out! They called on Starbucks to stop letting people in with "assault" rifles and the "automatic weapon" used by the Tuscon lunatic.


    Dear Starbucks,
    I support the Valentine’s Day launch of a boycott against Starbucks. I will not visit Starbucks stores or buy any Starbucks products wherever they are sold until your company joins other national chains — including Disney, IKEA, California Pizza Kitchen and others — in banning handguns and assault rifles from your stores. Thousands of people have petitioned, asked at your shareholder meeting, and appealed directly to your Board to ban guns in your stores. Your refusal is a vote for the NRA and their lethal pro-gun agenda!
    I am disappointed to learn that Starbucks is not the socially conscious company that you promote. To live up to your claims as a socially conscious corporation, I call on Starbucks to actively work for sane gun laws, in cooperation with the National Gun Victims Action Council and allied groups who speak for the 14 million gun victims, survivors, and their families in the U.S. 14 million people is an army of coffee drinkers ready to support a corporation that champions public health and safety.
    Your policy of welcoming guns like the automatic weapon used by the Tucson shooter into your stores, either openly carried or concealed, is not acceptable. It is shocking. Starbucks has the legal right to ban guns. Please assert this right, reject the NRA’s Pro-Gun Agenda and become a corporate advocate in the struggle for sane gun laws in the United States. Until Starbucks does this, I will continue my boycott.
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    Amusingly pathetic. An "army" of 14 million, compared to 70-80 million adults* that own guns!

    ETA: I expect Starbucks can count... and knows how to do inequality calculations!

    TFred

    *ETA(2): Found a source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T Dubya View Post
    This is the mass email that they are sending out! They called on Starbucks to stop letting people in with "assault" rifles and the "automatic weapon" used by the Tuscon lunatic.
    Because criminals check the door for no guns allowed signs before entering to shoot up the place... This is one thing I will never get about antis. People will never get that criminals don't follow laws. That's such an obvious statement that its pathetic. Its like saying a mother is a woman with a child. Its the definition!
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    Look at what I found on their website: http://gunvictimsaction.org/

    Our economic lever cannot be overcome because we outnumber the NRA’s “extremist” faction by minimally 50 to 1. To establish the economic lever, NGAC will initiate targeted boycotts
    I'm laughing as I'm reading.

    I never heard of this group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev tone92 View Post
    Because criminals check the door for no guns allowed signs before entering to shoot up the place... This is one thing I will never get about antis. People will never get that criminals don't follow laws. That's such an obvious statement that its pathetic. Its like saying a mother is a woman with a child. Its the definition!
    Yeah, yeah, I know all that pal and that's good that you know that too, but not my point at all. My point is the bogus rhetoric they use. I would imagine that the number of "automatic" handguns that lawful gun owners bring into Starbucks is probably nil. They're might be 1 or 2 millionaires that have Glock 18's, but most of us carry semi-autos and revolvers. Also; the assault rifles comment. An assault rifle falls under NFA laws. I doubt that there are gun owners who regularly bring rifles in at Starbucks, much less an NFA assault rifle.

    BTW: Welcome to the forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neplusultra View Post
    I think you could make an argument that a company should support Constitutional rights as such but from a business perspective I've always thought it foolish for a business to get into political issues. You always offend somebody when you do and that's not what a good business should do.
    Exactly. Starbucks doesn't care to get involved in the debate one way or the other. Being that they will be dragged into it anyway, simply going by state law is noncontroversial as it's going to get.

    The hoplophobes are just upset that they can't get state law in line with their desires, and they can't get a big chain like Starbucks to openly (har har) endorse their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T Dubya View Post
    Yeah, yeah, I know all that pal and that's good that you know that too, but not my point at all. My point is the bogus rhetoric they use. I would imagine that the number of "automatic" handguns that lawful gun owners bring into Starbucks is probably nil. They're might be 1 or 2 millionaires that have Glock 18's, but most of us carry semi-autos and revolvers. Also; the assault rifles comment. An assault rifle falls under NFA laws. I doubt that there are gun owners who regularly bring rifles in at Starbucks, much less an NFA assault rifle.

    BTW: Welcome to the forum!
    Didn't mean to come off starkly. Sorry if I did it just upsets me how blind people are. I guess because my own mother is one of this people but hey cant change the close minded.

    As I stated earlier me and my lady friend will both be patronizing starbicks on valentines day. Both OCing of course. Would be interesting if I run into any other OCers.
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    Our economic lever cannot be overcome because we outnumber the NRA’s “extremist” faction by minimally 50 to 1. To establish the economic lever, NGAC will initiate targeted boycotts
    Hoh hoh hoh! Belly laugh there.

    How's that working out for you?

    Seriously, the anti-gun crowd are to politics what trolls are to the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev tone92 View Post
    Didn't mean to come off starkly.
    I never thought that for a second. You're fine, just fine. Glad to have you on board.
    "These are the shock troops (opencarry.org) of the gun lobby. And, they are not going away."
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    http://gunvictimsaction.org/blog/201...creasing-risk/

    LOL, omg, I can't stop. It's too funny.

    Are we 100% sure these guys aren't trolls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngac website
    http://gunvictimsaction.org/blog/201...creasing-risk/

    why will the starbucks’ boycott be successful?
    the primary reason is that we have the capacity to seriously hurt starbucks financially. Facts: In 2009, starbucks’ financials showed its profit before tax, from all activities, was $562 million. I am one individual and have stopped spending the $8 per week ($400 per year) i was spending at starbucks.
    if 10% of the 14 million gun victims, gun assault survivors and their supporters reduce their spending by $8 per week—$400 per year—starbucks’ revenue loss will be $560 million (1,400,000 people not spending $400 per year)… and this does not include any of the 100 million people that polls consistently show want sane gun laws. (note spending can be reduced by not going to starbucks stores and/or not buying starbucks products sold in supermarkets and other retail outlets—such as their via instant coffee or ice creams.)

    ngac’s boycott will cause starbucks’ stock price to fall significantly,
    credit lines will be affected and mass selling of starbucks stock by institutions, mutual funds and other shareholders will occur; their stock price will collapse. Our potential impact is so significant starbucks would be pressured by stock analysts, institutions, mutual funds and other shareholders, as well as by the ceos of license partners, like barnes & noble, to end the boycott before it begins.
    however, if starbucks needs to find out whether gun victims, gun assault survivors, their families—people permanently devastated, longing for empowerment and repulsed at starbucks promoting the pro-gun agenda—will participate and stay the course, they are welcome to find out. Our goal is for starbucks to change their gun policy and become a passionate advocate for sane gun laws. By doing so, starbucks will generate enormous good will from millions of people who want sane gun laws. This means new customers and new sales.
    lol
    Carry On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T Dubya View Post
    I never thought that for a second. You're fine, just fine. Glad to have you on board.
    Glad to be here! Looking forward to being a part of it. As for the topic at hand. Just talked to my lady friend and she planned on going to Starbucks (OCing of couse) on VT day anyway before we headed out to do what we planned so this works out great!

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    Originally Posted by ngac website
    http://gunvictimsaction.org/blog/201...creasing-risk/

    why will the starbucks’ boycott be successful?
    the primary reason is that we have the capacity to seriously hurt starbucks financially...
    "If we don't like how you choose to run your own business, we're going to hurt you! Nyah nyah nyaah!"

    however, if starbucks needs to find out whether gun victims, gun assault survivors, their families—people permanently devastated, longing for empowerment and repulsed at starbucks promoting the pro-gun agenda—will participate and stay the course, they are welcome to find out. Our goal is for starbucks to change their gun policy and become a passionate advocate for sane gun laws. By doing so, starbucks will generate enormous good will from millions of people who want sane gun laws. This means new customers and new sales.
    Choosing to be a victim is their idea of empowerment? Uhhh huhhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    Choosing to be a victim is their idea of empowerment? Uhhh huhhhh
    Oh me oh my, my life was ruined by guns! I am a gun victim! I feel so powerless. I know.... I'll pass a law. Then I'll really be empowered!

    Empowered to be ineffectual.

    Does anybody have any evidence that these guys are for real? If it were any other issue, I'd have called "troll" definitively long ago.

    This stuff is just too hilarious to be for real. It's like The Onion making fun of the Brady Bunch.
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