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    Man with a gun detained near Bush Home

    http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Man-a...138003848.html


    Man with a Texas CHP detained by Secret Service.

    Dallas Police say, "No reason to hold the man."

    Secret Service doesn't care he has a CHP, they want answers.

    Thoughts?

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    This smells bad to me. He was compelled to deliver a spiritual message and followed another car to sneak into the gated community. I would send him to psych eval for sure.

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    Did the story state that the Bush's were not home at the time? And....AND....they, the SS I presume, do not believe that he is a threat to the Bushes at this time.....especially since they are OUT OF TOWN!!!!

    Man, ya just can't make this stuff up. The locals say let him go. The SS holds onto the dude, and the focus is on the dude and not the extended detention of a citizen where no state, county, city violations have occurred. The SS is way off base on this one, regarding FORMER PRESIDENT Bush.

    The SS dudes need to do a couple of ride-a-longs with the local cops to see what real LE does every day and how to handle folks who have not broken the law.
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    If they don't believe he is or was a threat, why the detainment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    If they don't believe he is or was a threat, why the detainment?
    Law doesn't pertain to them and they feel like it.
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    Would any of y'all really try to sneak on to a former President's property to deliver a message, knowing he had SS protection? I think we've seen enough of this to know what's going to happen.
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    According to the story, the gun was in a locked box. Also, the man had a Concealed Carry Permit.

    So, what is the media to do about a non-story about a man who wanted to go speak to the former president? They hype the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Would any of y'all really try to sneak on to a former President's property to deliver a message, knowing he had SS protection? I think we've seen enough of this to know what's going to happen.
    I wouldn't try to onto sneak onto anyone's property. If they can't charge him with anything, however, he should be released; that is the law.
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    Before everyone starts bashing the Secret Service, why don't you wait until you have all the information. The article certainly isn't full of information.

    We already know that the man snuck into a gated community where he had no reason to be. He is approaching the house of a man with multiple death threats against him. He said he had a spiritual message. With all the religious fanatics out there, this could mean anything. It's not like the guy didn't do anything wrong. Regardless of whether or not the Bushes were there, we have no idea what his intent was.

    Let the Secret Service conduct their investigation, then pass judgment.
    Last edited by thebigsd; 01-26-2012 at 03:42 PM.
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    Storing the firearm in a lock-box was a good idea.

    Attempting to skirt the normal channels in order to speak to any high-profile official under SS protection is always a bad idea.

    Holding a citizen of the United States of America who has violated no laws...

    Well, he did attempt to sneak onto the property. Given the situation, he may have broken federal law.
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    Regardless, he was caught trespassing, which is still a crime in this country last I checked... but even if he weren't trespassing, LE can detain people for some period of time (I think 48 hours) for questioning. If I were the SS, I would hold anyone trying to sneak onto the property of a current or former president for questioning at the very least regardless of whether they were armed.

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