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    What are your opinions on the taurus 1911's?

    I'm wanting to get a 1911 platform for my next firearm purchase. I decided to stop by the place where I bought my Sig Pro 2022 to look at their selection. Most of them were out of my price range. The guy there did offer me a Taurus 1911 for less then 700.00. Taurus is one of the few brands I don't really have any kind of experience with. does anyone here own or use to own any of the newer models Taurus 1911's? What our your opinions on them? How accurate are they? Do they feed most types of ammo well? Does the slide wiggle and get a lot of movement over time?

    Any and all comments are appreciated. Thanks.

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    Social Lounge!

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    Finish Sucks, but has performed flawlessly. Lots of rounds through it (over 1000), personal defense and the cheapest garbage. Haven't had a failure yet, knock on wood. Ran it till it was so dirty the first day around, thought it would never come clean.

    Turned me into a 1911 fan, reconfigured my USP to get rid of the decocker after getting a feel for it. (the 1911)

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    I realized just as I hit post it should be in a different place. MOD please move this to selecting a handgun. Thanks.

    Also if you're going to correct someone on where they should post maybe you should make sure that you're not wrong as well. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigGuy23 View Post
    Any and all comments are appreciated. Thanks.
    Just a big fat lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Just a big fat lie?
    It's not a lie. The comment was appreciated. I was just pointing out that it should go into selecting a handgun and not social lounge. Also it would have been nice if you would have contributed to the topic and said what you like or dislike about the firearm. Let's just say we were both wrong and move on. I don't want to have a dumb internet argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky508 View Post
    Finish Sucks, but has performed flawlessly. Lots of rounds through it (over 1000), personal defense and the cheapest garbage. Haven't had a failure yet, knock on wood. Ran it till it was so dirty the first day around, thought it would never come clean.

    Turned me into a 1911 fan, reconfigured my USP to get rid of the decocker after getting a feel for it. (the 1911)
    Sounds good. Thanks. Witch model do you have?

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    Regardless of where you posted this, here's a great resource regarding fine Taurus firearms.

    1911 section of TaurusArmed.net

    BTW, I have been carrying two Taurus firearms since I started OC/CC and never had an issue.

    Enjoy!
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    Regardless of where you posted this, here's a great resource regarding fine Taurus firearms.

    1911 section of TaurusArmed.net
    Do NOT go to Taurus Armed. You are only to read POSITIVE reviews about Taurus guns there. I went there and answered this same question with a bad review and was warned by an admin. I replied to a thread asking this same question and my problems with the gun were challenged. After going back and forth with some of the members I had this in my inbox.
    Prove to me you're not a troll or basher, because you certainly are coming across as one, to more than just me. You don't like Taurus? Fine. But we aren't going to listen to it here over and over again. Of your 55 posts, almost 50% are negative toward Taurus. Like I said earlier, this is a Taurus enthusiasts site, and you sure have a poor way of showing yourself to be one.


    Yeah, you can consider this a warning.
    ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LOVE TAURUS GUNS IN A TROLL OR BASHER.
    (In no way am I slamming another forum, I'm just saying it is a poor source for fair reviews on a gun because the Admin himself said it is for "Taurus enthusiasts.")

    I've had nothing but BAD LUCK with PT1911s and Taurus revolvers. I've owned 4. (you'd think I would have stopped at one?) I kept one in 9mm just for the range.

    I don't trust a manufacturer that constantly sends me broken guns with problems that could get you killed. When you buy a Taurus figure in the cost it takes to ship it back NIB for repairs.

    My first Taurus gun was a revolver and NIB the transfer bar would get stuck to the bottom of the firing pin when you pulled the trigger, locking the gun up. Another big issue was a PT1911, when you'd drop the safety the hammer would fall O_O RUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN I had another PT1911, the inside was littered with machining marks and chips on the inside of the frame. The parts in there looked like they were thrown through a jet engine.

    Do yourself a favor, get a Rock Island Armory.



    TO BE FAIR TO TAURUS - with the guns I had to send back new in box for repairs, I had them back within a week or two. There warranty service is great - unfortunately you have to use it on NIB guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    Do NOT go to Taurus Armed. You are only to read POSITIVE reviews about Taurus guns there. I went there and answered this same question with a bad review and was warned by an admin. I replied to a thread asking this same question and my problems with the gun were challenged. After going back and forth with some of the members I had this in my inbox.


    ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LOVE TAURUS GUNS IN A TROLL OR BASHER.
    (In no way am I slamming another forum, I'm just saying it is a poor source for fair reviews on a gun because the Admin himself said it is for "Taurus enthusiasts.")

    I've had nothing but BAD LUCK with PT1911s and Taurus revolvers. I've owned 4. (you'd think I would have stopped at one?) I kept one in 9mm just for the range.

    I don't trust a manufacturer that constantly sends me broken guns with problems that could get you killed. When you buy a Taurus figure in the cost it takes to ship it back NIB for repairs.

    My first Taurus gun was a revolver and NIB the transfer bar would get stuck to the bottom of the firing pin when you pulled the trigger, locking the gun up. Another big issue was a PT1911, when you'd drop the safety the hammer would fall O_O RUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN I had another PT1911, the inside was littered with machining marks and chips on the inside of the frame. The parts in there looked like they were thrown through a jet engine.

    Do yourself a favor, get a Rock Island Armory.



    TO BE FAIR TO TAURUS - with the guns I had to send back new in box for repairs, I had them back within a week or two. There warranty service is great - unfortunately you have to use it on NIB guns.
    Thanks for all that you said. I asked the guy about that kind of stuff. He told me the old ones were crap but they had made a lot of improvements.

    I actually thought about getting a rock island. When I asked a guy at the range buy my house about them he said that after a few hundred rounds the slide gets real loose and has to much movement. I never heard that before. I heard from most reviews they are pretty solid. Do you have a Rock Island?

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    I personally do not have any experience with the Taurus 1911. One of my friends had one though and got rid of it for lack of holsters. His had a rail and apparently Taurus uses different dimensions than the other manufacturers so he couldn't find any holsters. Not sure if that has been remedied yet. Don't think there are any problems with the ones without a rail.
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    TA is a different type of forum...

    Schlitz, I'm not picking a fight with you here. I just feel that you forcefully misrepresented a forum that I find very useful and friendly so I'm going to give folks here a different side of your encounter.

    The folks there at TA are expecting a slightly higher standard of discussion from members than is acceptible here on OCDO. You dropped the F bomb on their forum. It's a privately owned forum, you know, the rated G "totally not attached to Taurus corporate" Taurus fan forum. They make their own rules. It's a forum for folks who own or have questions about Taurus or Rossi firearms.

    I popped over to TA and reviewed your interchanges and found that you're you're still a member in good standing. They cleared the ban you received for posting foul language. You were pretty excited at an online gun deal gone bad and you were less than pleased with the internals of your $500 PT1911. You get what you pay for. Honestly you are one of the more frisky members here on OCDO and they just aren't geared up for that level of "posting freedom" over there.

    You got accused of being a troll? Sorry. Might I point out if someone here on OCDO has a <50 post count and is negative in his language about Open Carry, some folks here might assign that same title to the offender. Same deal over there. It's just a forum, deal with it.

    There is a section on Tarus complaints. And there are plenty of threads in there. Taurus isn't perfect. Oddly, customer service obviously gets the job done though. Most of those "complaint" threads end the same way with some guy happily blazing away at the range with his repaired handgun.

    Don't like Taurus? Fine, don't buy one. I have two that I love and I trust them both with my life daily. All for under $900. And with four kids, money is important. So, when I was buying a handgun, choosing between a $500 .45ACP (not a 1911 BTW) or a coolio name brand 1911 from some well known and much loved manufacturer for $1,500?.. Not a hard choice for me.

    Taurus PT-945SS. Great gun that goes bang every time...

    The OP had questions and I gave him a great source, though not the only source, for info on Taurus firearms.

    I hope I helped you SigGuy23.
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    The Taurus PT1911 was my first 1911. (Now have 4) I have put thousands of rounds through it without issues. You are getting a gun with custom features for half the cost of a custom gun.

    Each gun is unique, Kimbers and Springfields can fail just as easily. Don't let the Taurus haters put you off if this is the gun you want.

    +1 for Rock Island Armory. Excellent guns. I have two of them.
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    I do not own any of them but know people who do. I have herd some horror story's about them and have herd the company does not treat their employee's very well leading to a lack of motivation to put out a good product. This is all word of mouth I have herd over the years and can not quote anyone or even be able to tell you where I herd it. I have looked at a few they are very affordable but never liked the way they felt in my hand, they are not something I could shoot comfortably.

    All that being said I also know people who own them and love them. A co worker and good friend of mine has a 1911 (not sure what model) And rants and raves about it. It is his primary carry gun and it has never let him down. From what I have seen personally if you get a good one you get a great gun, if you don't get a good one you will be sending it back to the factory a few times before you can start to rely on it
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    Go to 1911 forum, scroll down to manufacturers and read the comments both pro and con about any of the current manufacturers. Rock Island Makes the Spartan for STI. That should say something about them.
    I have a RIA and my shooting partner has the Taurus, Both in 38 super. There are a couple differences in the Taurus but for the most part they follow the 1911 platform quite well. Would I buy the Taurus in the $700 range? Not when I can get the RIA Tactical for much less. Check www.centerfiresystems.com

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    Sigguy,
    Go here and read to your hearts content. You will get all opinions in the various threads under the Taurus Mfg. thread I am sending you to.


    http://forums.1911forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
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    Taurus .... proprietary sight cuts, out of spec frame pin holes, poor fit and finish with lousy customer service. Friends don't let friends buy Taurus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire suppressor View Post
    and have herd the company
    Sorry but after dozens of posts I had point something out----it's spelled HEARD, that is unless you have a "herd" of sheep, horses, or cattle.
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    Originally bought it for my wife, because she liked the thinner grip of a single stack mag. (It’s mine now……) I think it’s just a PT 1911 with no letter designator that shows up in the 2012 catalog, like “B” for the blued steel version. It has what I assume is a half ass parkerized finish, which to date is my only complaint. Of course I’m no 1911 expert so as far as pin alignment and all that, I wouldn’t know. It doesn’t rattle like an old pinto or explode when its rear ended.
    It’s an out of the box shooter, it points well functions well, and turned me on to the platform.
    I have two Taurus pistols, the other a PT145 Pro in stainless, and I have ran it through an impromptu torture test or two, never malfunctioning. Bought them both after reading nothing but bad reviews, which seems to be when I get my best stuff. I know it’s not luck, cause it if weren’t for bad luck I wouldn’t have any at all…………

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    Go to 1911 forum, scroll down to manufacturers and read the comments both pro and con about any of the current manufacturers. Rock Island Makes the Spartan for STI. That should say something about them.
    I have a RIA and my shooting partner has the Taurus, Both in 38 super. There are a couple differences in the Taurus but for the most part they follow the 1911 platform quite well. Would I buy the Taurus in the $700 range? Not when I can get the RIA Tactical for much less. Check www.centerfiresystems.com
    Thanks for the link. That site is awesome. I think I might have to go for the RIA Tactical or High Cap .45 ACP Can't wait to save my money and get one.

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    Just read a post on the Hunt Wa forum.
    Guy just bought one and loved it.
    He got it at Wholesale Sports.

    Look here
    http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...?topic=90283.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigGuy23 View Post
    Do you have a Rock Island?
    I DO own one and I DO own a PT1191 still. The PT1911 is in 9mm, fun for the range. The RIA is .45ACP for carry. I bought it used, nice tight fit, feeds FMJ and JHP flawlessley. No issues. I did some research before buying both. The Taurus guns had mixed reviews, but I dismissed them as trolls. All I had from then on was what I FELT was crap quality from taurus (though they do honor their warranty). I cannot find any bad reviews on the RIA 1911 and it's performance reflects why.

    There is a reason so many people 'from the internet' are split on taurus. Lots of people get GREAT quality guns from them! and Lots of people get CRAP quality guns from them!

    There is a reason that the RIA has hardly any complaints (I can't find serious complaints, but because I'm sure someone out there has complained at one point in their life, we'll say hardly). Lots of people get GREAT quality guns from them! and not many (if any?) get CRAP quality guns form them!

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    You dropped the F bomb on their forum.
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    When I am ready to buy another 1911, I won't buy a Taurus. I have a short list of manufacturers I will refer to for 1911s, and Taurus isn't on it, or for any other type of handgun. Any category of handgun has plenty of quality manufacturers to choose from, so I am not compelled to consider one with such a spotty reputation. You could do worse, no doubt; but you could do much better. The difference of a couple hundred bucks for the purchase price of a handgun is, in my opinion, overstated. I'm not wealthy by any strech, but a well-maintained quality firearm will outlive me. In that context, the purchase price is just scratching the surface of the investment that firearm will become. That is, unless it's going to just sit in a safe or nightstand for the majority of it's life.

    'You get what you pay for.' The exceptions to that statement prove the rule. Apparently RIA makes a fine 1911 for much less than other brands. That is an exception to the rule. If you want a quality, combat oriented 1911 made in the USA (my own qualifier), you will have to pay for it. I understand RIA products are made overseas (Taurus as well), and disqualifies it from consideration for me. With so many quality options made in the USA, I see no reason to look elsewhere.

    I make high quality beer at work. There's a tremendous selection of quality beer made in other countries and states available here in Washington. But if you buy locally made beer, then I can spend your hard earned money on an American made firearm. Thanks in advance!

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    While I do not have the 1911, I do have a Taurus. I just want to jump in and say lifetime warranty on the gun.

    http://www.taurususa.com/repair-policy.cfm

    I bought mine semi-used and a pin was loose. Sent in in to Taurus and promptly received it fixed and cleaned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOneChick View Post
    While I do not have the 1911, I do have a Taurus. I just want to jump in and say lifetime warranty on the gun.

    http://www.taurususa.com/repair-policy.cfm

    I bought mine semi-used and a pin was loose. Sent in in to Taurus and promptly received it fixed and cleaned.
    Taurus does have a lifetime warranty that lives with that gun forever. I've sent a couple guns NIB back to them for repairs. (Yes, they come broken 'new')

    I cannot tell you about Sig, Glock, Ruger or Rock Island Armory's warranty or service - I've never had to use it.
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