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GOP takeover in Senate having profound effects

marshaul

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TFred said:
FLAG! There are dozens if not hundreds of situations in real life where people require sustenance and other forms of assistance from other people in order to survive. Can a 1 year old baby survive without the constant care of another person? No! So should we allow parents to "eliminate them" as well?

The difference between inside and outside the womb is what is truly irrelevant.

This topic should not be discussed on this forum. But don't expect to be able to drop bombs like that and go unchallenged.

TFred
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It's not a question of whether a person is dependent on a person for sustenance. Since rights cannot overlap, the question is, when does a mother's pre-existing right to self-ownership no longer preclude the fetus having an absolute right to life? The obvious answer is, when its life is no longer dependent on her body, and therefore her right to self-ownership. If nature allows or technology exists to keep a fetus alive outside its mother at a given point, then a mother has a right to eject the fetus, but not to actively kill it afterwards.
 
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Janet Howell

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Can't you NOVAites muzzle your politicians? It's worse than listening to The Osmond's over and over and over.:banana:
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Last election Janet spent 1000 times more that the salary she makes as a VA senator to get elected. If I could raise that kind of money (and didn't have to hold down a real job) I'd run... :banghead:
 
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sb484: abortion informed consent; ultrasound, passed 21 to 18, after some add'l heated debate.
 
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If this bill becomes law, we should expect to see an increase in the number of unwanted babies put up for adoption, or abandoned to the care of the state.

Who will be paying for these obligatory ultrasounds? Insurance companies? The mothers out of pocket? Medicaid?

Good job, Senate!
 
mk4

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peter nap said:
Did you say "SOME"?:lol:
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:p

was interesting flipping back and forth between the 2 live feeds trying to keep track of which had more fireworks today. felt a bit like the dancing monkey! :monkey
 
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peter nap

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mk4 said:
:p

was interesting flipping back and forth between the 2 live feeds trying to keep track of which had more fireworks today. felt a bit like the dancing monkey! :monkey
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I didn't watch the house, I was trying to concentrate on the Senate, the Dog Hunters, the counterfeit cigarette bill and set up for the committee. Looks like I missed a show:lol:
 
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always a show...
with fightin' joe!

oh look! i made a rhyme! :lol:
 
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