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    Indiana Open Carry Study??

    In a recent news article about the planned Starbucks boycott, there was this quote:

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/unit...ms-186110.html

    According to the NGAC, an Indiana study found that “many open carriers are dangerous people with extremely violent histories.” Fineman claims that open carry is one of many reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides in the United States each year, and that Starbucks’ “promotion” of open carry can have a devastating effect.
    I went searching for this study and could absolutely nothing. Anyone know about this "study"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGVAC
    The most complete study of open carry legal gun owners (Note: not “law abiding citizens” but legal gun owners) was performed in 2009 in the State of Indiana. The study shows that many open carriers have extremely violent histories, are dangerous people and use their guns to commit violence and intimidate. (See INDYSTAR.COM October 11, 2009 “Should these Hoosiers have been allowed to carry a gun in public?”)
    IndyStar paid archives.

    https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=...BFwM5g&cad=rja

    Here it is http://www.indystar.com/article/2009...ry-gun-public-
    One Indiana man pressed the barrel of a loaded handgun into the chest of a woman holding her 1-year-old son.

    Another's handgun was confiscated by police three times -- twice for shooting in public. A third man was arrested for allegedly dealing crack cocaine and later was accused of beating his girlfriend.

    But it's not merely those actions that concern law enforcement officials and others on both sides of the polarizing handgun debate. It's what happened next.

    In each of these three cases, the person later applied for a permit to carry a handgun in public. And in all of these cases -- and hundreds of other questionable ones uncovered by The Indianapolis Star -- the Indiana State Police granted that request, often over the objections of the local police department and even though, in some cases, it appears the State Police had a legal obligation to deny the permit.

    Even worse, many of those people committed subsequent crimes, some with the guns they were legally permitted to carry.

    STAR WATCH PAGE: http://indystar.com/starwatch//">Read all of The Star's top investigations, on subjects such as local government, animal control, children's services and much more.

    One such person held his wife captive for four days in their home, threatening to shoot her and four children. Another man pressed a gun barrel to the head of his live-in girlfriend, threatening to kill her and leaving "a very noticeable round circle mark." A third man reached toward his gun and threatened to kill police during a domestic-dispute call.

    Over the past few months, The Star has examined the gun-permit process, focusing on about 450 permit holders with dubious backgrounds from Marion and Lake counties. Those counties were chosen because they are large ones where records are most accessible electronically.
    The article is seven pages long and most of the claims seem to be in a sidebar.
    Last edited by Herr Heckler Koch; 02-03-2012 at 04:54 PM.

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    Gota love how they put criminals in with people who are armed for self defense against criminals.
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    http://gunvictimsaction.org/faqs/are...public-safety/
    IndyStar paid archives.

    https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=...BFwM5g&cad=rja

    Here it is http://www.indystar.com/article/2009...ry-gun-public-
    The article is seven pages long and most of the claims seem to be in a sidebar.

    So, basically there is absolutely no study, just an editorialized news article?

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