Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: What is considered concealed

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    ripley wv
    Posts
    144

    What is considered concealed

    Open carry in WV is visable from 3 sides, soif you are CC can the gun be seen at all or would it be anything that is visable under that, say from front only, or side?? Im kinda new and trying to learn all I can.

  2. #2
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358
    The "visible from three sides requirement" is an urban myth. It does not exist ANYWHERE in law, statute, code or ordinance.

    It is an "interpretation" published by the Attorney General, but it is NOT the AG's own interpretation. It comes from the fevered minds of some rogue WV State Troopers--who have no authority or legal right to establish legal interpretations.

    Open Carry is any form of carry that does not attempt to conceal the true nature or location of a firearm. On your hip, in a holster, in plain view, without any clothing obscuring it is Open Carry, regardless of which side of your body the cop who is looking at you is on.

    If there were any legal authority to the "visible from three sides" argument, the ONLY place you could legally OC in West Virginia would be on top of your head, which is absurd...

    Carry in a holster, on your hip, and just be SURE that your clothing does not every, in any way, obscure or even partially cover your gun.

    Or, you could get a CC permit, and then it doesn't matter how or where you carry your firearm on your body...


    AS far as CCing, there is no statute that prohibits "printing" in WV, so as long as you are making a reasonable attempt to conceal, and have a permit, you are OK. Just don't be stupid.

    Wear appropriate clothing. Get a quality CC holster that fits your gun AND your body and is comfortable. Wear appropriate cover clothing--loose shirts, a jacket, etc. And if you are going to carry IWB, buy pants that are one size too big, or else it won't be comfortable, and your pants won't fit right and will look weird.

    Look at yourself in a mirror. Have a friend look at you. IF you can INSTANTLY tell you are CCing, you're doing it wrong.

    It really IS that simple...
    Last edited by Dreamer; 02-05-2012 at 04:46 PM.
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    1,929
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The "visible from three sides requirement" is an urban myth. It does not exist ANYWHERE in law, statute, code or ordinance.

    It is an "interpretation" published by the Attorney General, but it is NOT the AG's own interpretation. It comes from the fevered minds of some rogue WV State Troopers--who have no authority or legal right to establish legal interpretations.

    Open Carry is any form of carry that does not attempt to conceal the true nature or location of a firearm. On your hip, in a holster, in plain view, without any clothing obscuring it is Open Carry, regardless of which side of your body the cop who is looking at you is on.

    If there were any legal authority to the "visible from three sides" argument, the ONLY place you could legally OC in West Virginia would be on top of your head, which is absurd...

    Carry in a holster, on your hip, and just be SURE that your clothing does not every, in any way, obscure or even partially cover your gun.

    Or, you could get a CC permit, and then it doesn't matter how or where you carry your firearm on your body...


    AS far as CCing, there is no statute that prohibits "printing" in WV, so as long as you are making a reasonable attempt to conceal, and have a permit, you are OK. Just don't be stupid.

    Wear appropriate clothing. Get a quality CC holster that fits your gun AND your body and is comfortable. Wear appropriate cover clothing--loose shirts, a jacket, etc. And if you are going to carry IWB, buy pants that are one size too big, or else it won't be comfortable, and your pants won't fit right and will look weird.

    Look at yourself in a mirror. Have a friend look at you. IF you can INSTANTLY tell you are CCing, you're doing it wrong.

    It really IS that simple...
    ^That.

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    ripley wv
    Posts
    144
    thank you for your answer, i have read so much in the last 2 weeks it has ran togather, my son, brother n law and myself were going take the CC class saturday but my wife ended up in the hospital I had to go pick her up, (she is ok but has lots of health issues) my son and bro n law got thiers and im set up for the next class.

    PS I think it was on a WV State police site i read that, like I said its kinda running togather. I want to know the laws WELL

  5. #5
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358
    Quote Originally Posted by eamelhorn View Post
    thank you for your answer, i have read so much in the last 2 weeks it has ran togather, my son, brother n law and myself were going take the CC class saturday but my wife ended up in the hospital I had to go pick her up, (she is ok but has lots of health issues) my son and bro n law got thiers and im set up for the next class.

    PS I think it was on a WV State police site i read that, like I said its kinda running togather. I want to know the laws WELL

    Knowing the law about OC in WV is easy--there are almost NO LAWS restricting Open Carry. The only things you have to know is that there are certain places you can't carry IN ANY CONFIGURATION, like the Capital Grounds, and some other places.

    There is NO PERMIT or LICENSE requirement for OC.

    There is no residency requirement.

    A person only need be legally in possession of a firearm to open carry it.

    IF there are no laws prohibiting an activity, it is, BY DEFINITION, legal and lawful. End of discussion...

    And having a CC permit doesn't change your legal status for OC. It does NOT mean you have to notify if you are stopped on the street--OC is in plain sight, and the CC laws ONLY apply to CC.

    Having a CC permit does not mean you can't OC any more than having a drivers license would mean you can't ride a bicycle...

    Good luck.
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Kingwood WV
    Posts
    3

    WV Code website

    Here is the website of WV pertaining to CCW.
    http://www.legis.state.wv.us/WVCODE/...?chap=61&art=7
    Paste into your browser and read the laws for yourself.

    Hope this helps out.

  7. #7
    Regular Member MilProGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    1,228
    Quote Originally Posted by eamelhorn View Post
    Open carry in WV is visable from 3 sides, soif you are CC can the gun be seen at all or would it be anything that is visable under that, say from front only, or side?? Im kinda new and trying to learn all I can.
    Concealed carry means that the handgun is not visible to others you may encounter.
    Proud Veteran ~ U.S. Army / Army Reserve

    Mississippi State Guard ~ Honorably Retired


  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    ripley wv
    Posts
    144
    I have learned LEO's dont know thier butt from a hole in the ground when it comes to gun laws, or they are just liers. The sporting goods store where we do most of our business has 2 LEO's that work in the gun department, a man I went to school with works in the gun department and we have talked much on CC and OC, while the LEO's listen. My friend that works there almost always replie's thats what they say motioning to the LEO's, and we have been educating my friend as well as we can.

    We have purchased 4 guns there in the last 4 months,3 pistols and a youth 7mm08 For my wife to deer hunt with, you would think they would be more forth coming to a regular coustomer. If things have not changed by my next visit I will find a new sporting goods store.

  9. #9
    Regular Member 09jisaac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Louisa, Kentucky
    Posts
    1,694
    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Concealed carry means that the handgun is not visible to others you may encounter.
    I would say recognizable. If you have the whole slide showing but it can't be recognized it is still concealed.

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    earth's crust
    Posts
    17,838
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post

    If there were any legal authority to the "visible from three sides" argument, the ONLY place you could legally OC in West Virginia would be on top of your head, which is absurd....
    NEWS UPDATE: And now for the latest legislation in WV ....

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •