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    Some Walmarts refusing to sell ammo on 3rd shift.

    Walmart Supercenter
    6100 West Reno Avenue, Oklahoma City, OK 73127
    (405) 491-0320 ‎

    I work late. I prefer to do my shopping at night, when the store is slow.

    I was not open carrying, we aren't allowed to do that here in Oklahoma (yet). This Walmart refused to sell me ammo at midnight. The employees told me that there was a Federal law restricting ammo sales at night. I told them that wasn't true, and I asked to see a manager, and I got Josie (assistant manager). She tells me that it's Walmart policy not to sell ammo from 10PM to 7AM. I already know that walmart has no such policy, because I got the store manager at another store who already corrected his employees.

    I called walmart corporate (1-800-walmart) and was told thre is no such policy. They took my complaint, and told me that someone would call me. Well, today someone called me. Some assistant manager from the store, who told me that that has been that store's policy for as long as she has worked there, and that one time some criminal fired a gun in the store. This is why they have the policy.

    I asked her when the shooting incident took place, and she admitted that the incident happened since they have had that policy. I told her that clearly the incident was not prevented by the policy not to sell ammo to law abiding citizens on 3rd shift. I tried to reason with her, but she told me that she doesn't have authority to set store policy. I then asked why she was the one who was calling me back, then? I also asked her to get someone who DOES have that authority to call me back. I even proposed that perhaps NOBODY had that authority?

    I know, I know... many people hate walmart. Many people refuse to shop there. However, you have to admit that we should all have the ability to buy ammo any time and any place that it's legal and a store is open.

    I'm planning to keep bugging them on this issue. Hopefully I will get an area manager to call me before long.

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    Olathe Walmart Super Center
    Store #577
    13600 S. Alden Street
    Olathe, Kansas 66062
    (913) 829-4404

    We have a walmart here in Kansas off of 135th in Olathe that refused to sell me ammunition when it was a little after 10pm. The sporting goods department employee told me they are not allowed until the morning of the new business day. I asked them why considering other walmarts have sold me ammunition in the early morning hours of 4am. I also have purchased ammunition at late hours from this location before, so to me something does not make any sense. I have heard of people saying its a Federal Law but I can't confirm with my encounter. Only thing I recall is me being told I will have to wait till the morning of the new day. Like I said it does not make any sense considering that it is perfectly legal to sell ammunition during all hours of the day and night at that specific walmart and other 24 hour wallmarts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook View Post
    I asked them why considering other wallmarts have sold me a bible in the early morning hours of 4am. What didn't make sense was the employee kept specifying and stating, who in their right mind would be buying a bible at this time. The employee also told me it that its strange someone would be wanting to buy bibles at this time of the hour. Also remembering this is a 24 hour store.
    I substituted another legal and constitutionally protected product, just to point out how ridiculous this is.

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    Never mind....LOL I figured out that you are just doing this as to making a point. I kept thinking of something else oh little fyi I changed up the original paragraph to sound more professional and not so per say childish. The part you have quoted and high lighted is not there for purposes to keep the topic straight and professional. Personal opinions at this point should not be a factor in this issue, more so walmarts policy.
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    Question, were you buying handgun ammo?

    I ask because I haven't even found handgun ammo at my local walmarts. They've said that they don't carry handguns, ammo, or anything for handguns (except they do carry a handgun cleaning kit). If you can buy ammo at your walmart at all, I think you're lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook View Post
    Never mind....LOL I figured out that you are just doing this as to making a point. I kept thinking of something else oh little fyi I changed up the original paragraph to sound more professional and not so per say childish. The part you have quoted and high lighted is not there for purposes to keep the topic straight and professional. Personal opinions at this point should not be a factor in this issue, more so walmarts policy.
    I wish you had left the original text intact. It goes a long way toward showing how employees and their silly and ignorant opinions are turning away purchases of perfectly legal products, when Wal-Mart corporate has no policy to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z1P2 View Post
    Question, were you buying handgun ammo?

    I ask because I haven't even found handgun ammo at my local walmarts. They've said that they don't carry handguns, ammo, or anything for handguns (except they do carry a handgun cleaning kit). If you can buy ammo at your walmart at all, I think you're lucky.

    Wow, even in the Peoples Republic of Maryland, they sell handgun ammo in WalMarts. I've never bought it there, because it is 15-25% more than the same ammo in stores in VA, but I've seen 9mm, .38special, .357 magnum, .40, and .45acp in MD WalMarts...

    As for the time of day, I have purchased handgun, rifle, and shotgun ammo in WalMarts in NC and VA after midnight with no issue, except they DID make me pay for it at the sporting goods counter, and didn't want me to carry it in my cart to the front checkout. And I was OCing every time I did it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z1P2 View Post
    Question, were you buying handgun ammo?

    I ask because I haven't even found handgun ammo at my local walmarts. They've said that they don't carry handguns, ammo, or anything for handguns (except they do carry a handgun cleaning kit). If you can buy ammo at your walmart at all, I think you're lucky.
    I never got the opportunity to specify which ammo I wanted. Their rifle and handgun ammo is all locked up in the same case. Shotgun ammo , OTOH, is on the shelf where you can pick up all you want 24/7.

    Just to be clear, my age is not an issue. I'm 43 and certainly don't look 18 or 21.

    There's another WM where I have no problem buying ammo, but their selection is dismal. This store was well stocked, but refused to sell because of the hour.

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    The store I went to had more pistol ammunition more so rifle or shotgun. Maybe because they sell more pistol ammunition than the others, I'm not sure. But I did request at first to get access to the locked ammunition to purchase it and I was OCing. I OC everytime I go to that walmart, so that situation hasn't really changed I guess. It just confused me as I have purchased ammo past the 10pm time before, but more frequent I do get the "I can't sell you ammunition till the new day". I do realize that they can sell me ammunition passed 10pm, it just seems more being lazy than anything else. I was told before that there "Sporting Goods Department" key holder was not available at this time. I did say I would wait, but they proceeded to pretty much tell me they can't sell me the ammo till the new business day.

    oh on prices with ammo, I have found more so over half the time the price per box of pistol rounds with most calibers seems to be the same at that walmart. Maybe a dollar at the most higher, but nothing horrible. I normally buy ammo in large volume more so individual boxes. 500 rounds to 1000 rounds crates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okiebryan View Post
    refused to sell because of the hour.
    That's probably why they are well stocked. LOL

    As one can see by the hour I'm posting, I'm a total night owl. So, I too prefer to hit up my local WalMart this time of night. Mine has the same insidious policy. In fact, I've encountered several around Central Florida that way. I've had the same silly discussions with silly employees as well as managers. I FINALLY got the most logical answer yet from a fella stocking shelves in the area.... He said that they don't man that department at night (sporting goods) meaning, no none has a key to the ammo case. A night manager probably has one, or at least has access to one, but, it's damn difficult to flag one down at night. Thus, a policy that won't tick off customers waiting on a manger to drop what he/she is doing to go dig up a key.

    I still don't like it, but, made more sense to me than any of the junk the managers tried to sell me.

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    I haven't bought ammo at walmart in a long time. Normally my Dad wants to go to Walmart with me, and since he works Swingshift, we go in late at night, usually around 12:00 AM. So we used to buy ammo at night, but now no one will help us(They keep all the ammo locked up except for shotgun ammo), so we actually ran out of 9mm ammo because that's where most of it came from! I think I'll get up early tomorrow and drop $30(3 boxes/150 rounds) to resupply my 9mm levels.

    I'm not making this personal, just trying to tell you why I don't like their policy, but I will just have to work around it. And I'll make sure to really stock up this time. I might even buy $50 worth if I feel like it.

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    Yeah this seems to be a never ending battle with walmart. It does make partial sense that there is know one in that department available to unlock the case. But to go to the extent on being extremely lazy and making up crap to get customers to come back when the employees feel like unlocking the case is crap. If a manager has access to the damn key and I'm requesting to purchase ammo, that manager better full fill his duties as one and get that key. He's not being paid to not assist customers with a purchase.
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    I think that more people who are running into this problem need to call their corporate complaint line at 1-800-walmart. I've done a little google searching, and this seems to be a problem at one store, but not another. If you call the toll free number, then someone from that store has to call you back. If they give you the run around, then ask to speak to the next higher person. Tell them that you wish to buy a legal product that thy offer for sale, and that you prefer to shop at night when the store is quieter. The more we point out the illogical reasons behind their policy to the right person, the more stores seem to stop this nonsense.

    Why would corporate want their employees to turn away customers? I don't think that they do.

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    Is this issue, not permitted to by pistol ammo, when you want, really a issue?
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

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    Yes, it really is an issue. Just exactly like the open carriers who have problems with employees making up policy on the fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Is this issue, not permitted to open carry, when you want, really a issue?
    There I fixed it for you.

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    You did not fix anything. You changed the meaning of my post to suit your purpose. If not being able to buy ammo at 10:00.00 PM is a issue, buy your ammo at 9:59.59 PM.

    Your preference for when you choose to make a purchase does not necessarily require a business to accommodate your preference. There are other businesses that would gladly sell you ammo at 10:00.00 PM....if not, then plan your shopping excursion accordingly.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    You did not fix anything. You changed the meaning of my post to suit your purpose. If not being able to buy ammo at 10:00.00 PM is a issue, buy your ammo at 9:59.59 PM.

    Your preference for when you choose to make a purchase does not necessarily require a business to accommodate your preference. There are other businesses that would gladly sell you ammo at 10:00.00 PM....if not, then plan your shopping excursion accordingly.
    i am surprised you are not shocked that a store will not sell you a legal product, just because of the time.
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    Here is a concept, quit supporting Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223to45 View Post
    Here is a concept, quit supporting Walmart.
    A quite simple concept, I might add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ 911 View Post
    I haven't bought ammo at walmart in a long time. Normally my Dad wants to go to Walmart with me, and since he works Swingshift, we go in late at night, usually around 12:00 AM. So we used to buy ammo at night, but now no one will help us(They keep all the ammo locked up except for shotgun ammo), so we actually ran out of 9mm ammo because that's where most of it came from! I think I'll get up early tomorrow and drop $30(3 boxes/150 rounds) to resupply my 9mm levels.

    I'm not making this personal, just trying to tell you why I don't like their policy, but I will just have to work around it. And I'll make sure to really stock up this time. I might even buy $50 worth if I feel like it.
    By law handgun ammo has to be locked up. The reason it is hard to get help is because the 10pm-7am guys are understaffed and overworked. They're usually given multiple departments and expected to get as much crap out as possible, but it's impossible to get everything out. They get chewed out at the end of the night for not performing miracles, so many of the overnighters see customers as massive burdens. Atleast that is the way it is at this Wal-Mart. If you want something, you're generally going to have to have them paged, unless you know who to look for. It's crap, but management doesn't care.

    There is no corporate policy that prevents the sell of ammo after 10pm. But from my experience, management is allowed to just invent whatever policies they want, so long as it doesn't cause too much headache for corporate. Talk to the store manager, if they do not change policies, talk to the district manager. You should get a satisfactory response there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa bear View Post
    i am surprised you are not shocked that a store will not sell you a legal product, just because of the time.
    I am shocked that every store I choose to patronize does not stay open 24/7. So that I may buy my products whenever the heck I want to.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    I am shocked that every store I choose to patronize does not stay open 24/7. So that I may buy my products whenever the heck I want to.
    Well if the store is open 24 hours then they should sell their products 24 hours and not have managers just come up with policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber_Olafsun View Post
    Well if the store is open 24 hours then they should sell their products 24 hours and not have managers just come up with policies.
    That's up to the store to decide, based on their cost-benefit analysis.

    Should the Subway inside the Walmart also be forced to stay open 24 hours? After all, subs are legal, and the Walmart is open. And of course no 24 hour grocery store should be permitted to have a pharmacy which closes at 10 pm, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    By law handgun ammo has to be locked up.
    Cite?

    Handgun ammo sits right out on the open shelves at Gander Mtn, Academy, and Bass Pro.

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