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    New Study on Defensive Gun Use

    Looks like there has been a new study. I found out about it at the link below.

    The summaries are favorable. If I understand what is being presented, Clayton Cramer is one of the authors.

    Read the blog entry for Monday 2/6/12. Note the part about disarmings. Its not the victims being disarmed! A much higher percentage is victims disarming the criminal!!

    http://www.theagitator.com/

    Try this link to see the white paper itself: http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/78800063
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    Why not use the original source instead of some silly blog?

    http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense/
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    Why not use the original source instead of some silly blog?
    I take issue with the characterization of Radley Balko's blog as "silly".

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    If I want to reference this study in my research paper on carry rights this semester (which I am now lol), referencing a blog would be silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAxe View Post
    If I want to reference this study in my research paper on carry rights this semester (which I am now lol), referencing a blog would be silly.
    But reading it certainly would not be. Hence, my issue.
    Last edited by marshaul; 02-07-2012 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    But reading it certainly would not be. Hence, my issue.
    Blogs in general are silly, I meant to particular offense against this one. Plus the title of the thread was about a study, something I find interesting, referencing a blog that references a study is not very nice, nor the proper way of referencing.
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    Blogs in general are silly, I meant to particular offense against this one. Plus the title of the thread was about a study, something I find interesting, referencing a blog that references a study is not very nice, nor the proper way of referencing.
    Fair enough.

    I don't blame Citizen, though. I'm sure he saw it there, and I would probably be inclined to share it the same way. The Agitator is one of a few blogs I like -- the format is ideal for keeping me informed on the latest litany of police excess. I wish more people paid attention.

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    Thanks for the support, fellas.

    The real reason I didn't link directly to the study, etc, is much simpler. I just didn't have time. Notice that I mentioned the summary, and quoted from the blog, not the study itself.

    All I had time for was a quick skim of the blog post. In fact, I came near as a whisper to just not mentioning it at all. But, I also realized that by the time I got back to that blog, the blog entry would move down the screen, and I could easily lose track of it, so I went ahead and made post I did. Quite simply, if I had more time, I would've just read the study myself, quoted directly from it myself, told y'all my opinion of it, and posted the link directly to it.

    But, I figured readers here could pounce on it in the meantime.

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    well, I'm glad you did. more data to support my research
    "Anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice." -Zeus

    "Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!" - Malcolm Reynolds

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