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    a little reminder to myself

    on why i carry in the woods
    on 2/14/12 on our property outside of new lisbon about 10 miles as the crow flies from the necedah wildlife refuge my family and i were out looking for sheds and we came across this track following a deer trail and that is my sons boot next to it the boot measures 8.5" long and 3.5" wide it dwarfed my pitbulls foot print it shadowed the deer trail for about 75 yards

    i think it might be a chihuahua or a pug lol


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    Definitely pugs mark after a couple of days becoming a sun-cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    on why i carry in the woods
    on 2/14/12 on our property outside of new lisbon about 10 miles as the crow flies from the necedah wildlife refuge my family and i were out looking for sheds and we came across this track following a deer trail and that is my sons boot next to it the boot measures 8.5" long and 3.5" wide it dwarfed my pitbulls foot print it shadowed the deer trail for about 75 yards

    i think it might be a chihuahua or a pug lol


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    A fair number of wolves down that way I almost picked one off with the SUV as it crossed the freeway atTomah.

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    The good news.....

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...for-Wis-Wolves

    No matter where you go.... "Be Carefull Out There".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    The good news.....

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...for-Wis-Wolves

    No matter where you go.... "Be Carefull Out There".....

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    that is not good news all it does is give people who dont like the idea of wolves in this state (there are alot of them and i know a few) a free reason to dispatch a great animal and get away with it
    now dont get me wrong if i was in a situation where a wolf was eye balling me or my family i would do what is necessary to stay alive
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    that is not good news all it does is give people who dont like the idea of wolves in this state (there are alot of them and i know a few) a free reason to dispatch a great animal and get away with it
    now dont get me wrong if i was in a situation where a wolf was eye balling me or my family i would do what is necessary to stay alive
    Now don't get me wrong... My username is not just a username it is who and what I am... I also highly value the sanctity of any life and would never condone killing for any reason other than to put food on the table, in self defense, or to put a suffering animal beyond help out of it's misery (Last June, I had to have my Black Lab of 16 years put down due to age realted health reasons).

    What I meant was... The "Good News" is that under circumstances of self defense, you will no longer have to worry about being charged for killing an animal listed on the Federal Endangered Species List.

    I apologize for not being more clear in my original statement...

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    i understand what you are saying and i assumed by your name your were an outdoorsy person but i still stand by my gun that the DNR will fudge this whole thing up and you will see the wolf population either not grow or dwindle down due the people who dont like wolves will use it as an excuse to get rid of a great creature

    self defense from an animal whether it be endangered or not i feel would be moot due to the fact that if it truly was self defense i think a court would have a hard time saying/proving/prosecuting that the life of an animal is worth more than a persons life is
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    I think that anyone who does not like wolves in WI. to the extent of wanting them gone no matter what, would have no problem killing one (or more) (in a remote wooded area) and not worry about any legal ramifications.....

    As well as I would have to wonder if the self defense killing of an animal listed as an endagererd species on the federal level would be an automatic "get out of jail free" card simply because it was in self defence...(?)

    At least we agree on the fact that the wolf in and of itself is a magnificent animal.

    As far as "carrying" for wolf protection, we both know that wolves hunt in packs and if one ever found himself actually having to defend from a wolf attack, I think the fact that a sidearm for wolf defense becomes a moot point.... You might get one or two, but the third or fouth will get you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    You might get one or two, but the third or fouth will get you....

    Just Sayin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    I think that anyone who does not like wolves in WI. to the extent of wanting them gone no matter what, would have no problem killing one (or more) (in a remote wooded area) and not worry about any legal ramifications..... i agree but i have heard of people in sauk dane and juneau counties say if the see one it will have a "heart attack and disapear"

    As well as I would have to wonder if the self defense killing of an animal listed as an endagererd species on the federal level would be an automatic "get out of jail free" card simply because it was in self defence...(?) i dont think it would be a get out of jail free either im sure there would be a hearing but it still boils done to whos life is worth more an animal (no matter what the endangerment level) or a persons
    self defense is self defense


    At least we agree on the fact that the wolf in and of itself is a magnificent animal.

    As far as "carrying" for wolf protection, we both know that wolves hunt in packs and if one ever found himself actually having to defend from a wolf attack, I think the fact that a sidearm for wolf defense becomes a moot point.... You might get one or two, but the third or fouth will get you.... that is true but at least i have a way to try and with any other wildlife as soon as the big bang is heard that in itself would be a scare tactic and would hopefully make em scatter

    Just Sayin.... me too wish we could do this over a beer and pizza

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    on why i carry in the woods
    on 2/14/12 on our property outside of new lisbon about 10 miles as the crow flies from the necedah wildlife refuge my family and i were out looking for sheds and we came across this track following a deer trail and that is my sons boot next to it the boot measures 8.5" long and 3.5" wide it dwarfed my pitbulls foot print it shadowed the deer trail for about 75 yards

    i think it might be a chihuahua or a pug lol


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    I'll respect your opinion, but my it would not hurt my feelings if every one of them were gone. We have far too many of them where I'm at. If it didn't cost so much, they should move all wolves south of highway 29, and better yet, down by Madison. I think you'd see a lot of attitiudes change.

    Most people would think differently of they had their hunting dog gutted by a wolf or pack of wolves for a snack. We hunt knowing the risks of bears and maybe cats now, when we go hunting, but wolves were taken out of the equation long ago for valid reasons... in my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    I think that anyone who does not like wolves in WI. to the extent of wanting them gone no matter what, would have no problem killing one (or more) (in a remote wooded area) and not worry about any legal ramifications.....

    As well as I would have to wonder if the self defense killing of an animal listed as an endagererd species on the federal level would be an automatic "get out of jail free" card simply because it was in self defence...(?)

    At least we agree on the fact that the wolf in and of itself is a magnificent animal.

    As far as "carrying" for wolf protection, we both know that wolves hunt in packs and if one ever found himself actually having to defend from a wolf attack, I think the fact that a sidearm for wolf defense becomes a moot point.... You might get one or two, but the third or fouth will get you....

    Just Sayin....

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    As with more gangs be they human or wild animals after the frist couple go down the rest well be running. Or they well be shot like the rest of them Unless you carry a single shot or double barrel for a defensive weapon even then one can reload.

    Actual I see more lone wolves and pairs then I ever see packs. But then I did see 13 pups at one time two differant litters togather as there was too differant size pups.

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    I came home from work about a month ago @ 3am. The local coyote pack was hunting. I heard the yipping as soon as I got out of my truck about half way to the house the HOLLOWING started. They were in the woods in front of the house and along the stream next to the house. There were 6 distinct voices. The Hollowing was real spooky. The rabbits have also disappeared.

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    Up here in the high altitude of Vernon co. we alway have to be on the lookout for the wild and agressive opposum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny amish View Post
    Up here in the high altitude of Vernon co. we alway have to be on the lookout for the wild and agressive opposum.
    But any good stick well take care of that problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    on why i carry in the woods
    on 2/14/12 on our property outside of new lisbon about 10 miles as the crow flies from the necedah wildlife refuge my family and i were out looking for sheds and we came across this track following a deer trail and that is my sons boot next to it the boot measures 8.5" long and 3.5" wide it dwarfed my pitbulls foot print it shadowed the deer trail for about 75 yards

    i think it might be a chihuahua or a pug lol


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    http://www.channel3000.com/news/29555507/detail.html
    R & R shooters has trail cam pics taken just north of newlisbon of the little kitty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    http://www.channel3000.com/news/29555507/detail.html
    R & R shooters has trail cam pics taken just north of newlisbon of the little kitty.
    correction that was taken about 2 miles north of mauston going towards necedah on hwy 58 i know the exact location of the farm where the pic was taken
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckdog View Post
    I'll respect your opinion, but my it would not hurt my feelings if every one of them were gone. We have far too many of them where I'm at. If it didn't cost so much, they should move all wolves south of highway 29, and better yet, down by Madison. I think you'd see a lot of attitiudes change.

    Most people would think differently of they had their hunting dog gutted by a wolf or pack of wolves for a snack. We hunt knowing the risks of bears and maybe cats now, when we go hunting, but wolves were taken out of the equation long ago for valid reasons... in my humble opinion.

    IMHO there's nothing to worry about. I've came across wolfs in the woods, and as soon as they say me they turned and high-tailed it in the oposite direction. Like the rest of the wild animals they don't like to be around humans. Of course one never knows what a sick or old wolf who can't catch supper would do about hunting a human. But take out the leader if attacked and the rest will run for cover, after using the now expired leader for lunch.

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    Does anyone have any evidence of a healthy wolf or wolves attacking humans? I don't mean humans that are attacking the wolves getting attacked by defensive Wolves. The only wolf attack or attacks I have ever heard of were from people attacking them or of a sick wolf.

    Anyone have any real data on wolves attacking people?

    I do know that wolves attack dogs, cats, and just about anything else out there and I've seen the effects of a wolf on a hunting dog. There was nothing left of the dog except the head and spine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57 View Post
    Does anyone have any evidence of a healthy wolf or wolves attacking humans? I don't mean humans that are attacking the wolves getting attacked by defensive Wolves. The only wolf attack or attacks I have ever heard of were from people attacking them or of a sick wolf.

    Anyone have any real data on wolves attacking people?

    I do know that wolves attack dogs, cats, and just about anything else out there and I've seen the effects of a wolf on a hunting dog. There was nothing left of the dog except the head and spine.
    Yes there was a women school treacher attacked and eaten in AK last year by a pack. Just do a google search and you'll find several attacks. Their was one from MN a young man was out deer hunting and was attack by a lone wolf he was able to fight it off. Story told in outdoor life I belive.

    The myth that wolves don't attack is promoted by the anti's. One of the reason there hasn't been more up until 73 they were shot on sight that didn't leave many left to attack. Years ago every body was armed wolves died if they got to close. Who knows how many people who left the tribe or hunters ect who just didn't come back when this country was young.

    Their is lot of evidence from Europe that wovles have killed and eaten lots of people over the years lots of unarmed people there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57 View Post
    Does anyone have any evidence of a healthy wolf or wolves attacking humans? I don't mean humans that are attacking the wolves getting attacked by defensive Wolves. The only wolf attack or attacks I have ever heard of were from people attacking them or of a sick wolf.

    Anyone have any real data on wolves attacking people?
    Google or Bing and two minutes of time can begin to answer your question. That said, from 2005 through current I am aware of three unprovoked attacks on humans by healthy wolves in North America. These attacks took place in Alaska, Saskatchewan, and Idaho. The attack in Idaho was stopped at 10 feet by a bowhunter who was also carrying a revolver while the attacks in Alaska and Saskatchewan were fatal. I'm afraid I can't provide a cite but IIRC, I read the report of a tracker in the fatal Saskatchewan attack who could see evidence the pack had trailed the victim and could see where both the victim and the pack began to run. I also know of an individual whose german shorthair was attacked and killed by wolves as they walked on a gravel road in a county campground near Otter Lake in Lincoln County in Wisconsin.

    At this time the likelihood of attack for most of us is remote, but as the wolf's range and numbers increase and more and more humans are found in the same areas, the risks and the attacks are likely to increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    Yes there was a women school treacher attacked and eaten in AK last year by a pack. Just do a google search and you'll find several attacks.
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    Rare fatality
    It was the first fatal wolf attack in Alaska, and only the second documented case of a wild wolf killing a human in North America. There are an estimated 60,000 to 70,000 wolves in North America, including 7,700 to 11,200 in Alaska.

    In the only other documented fatality, a pack of wolves killed Kenton Joel, a 22-year-old Ontario engineering student, in the woods of northern Saskatchewan on Nov. 8, 2005. Carnegie had gone for an afternoon hike and didn’t return to the surveyors camp where he was working. Authorities said at the time that wolves were drawn to the remote area because people had been leaving garbage in open dumps.

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