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    News story about a school board member open carrying on campus.

    Article is about school board member of Breckenridge Community Schools open carrying to board meetings on campus.

    http://www.wnem.com/story/16698983/s...enly-on-campus

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    News story about a school board member open carrying on campus

    School board member open carries at Breckenridge Community Schools

    http://www.wnem.com/story/16698983/s...enly-on-campus

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    Nice to see that practically all of the comments are in support of the guy carrying. And most of them are citing law, which is also good to see.
    The worst weapon is the human mind, its created and done things far worse than a gun can, has, or ever will. Its the human mind that tells the gun what to do and animates the inanimate object.

    With all these gun control laws in place I have yet to find a single one that has saved someones life, but I can find hundreds of stories where a gun has.

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    Somebody should tell Mike Goodyear that since he is so disturbed by seeing an openly carried gun at a school, he should contact his state senator and DEMAND that SB58 be passed immediately, so he doesn't have to look at those scary guns anymore.









    Unfortunately Mr Goodyear would be the first person screaming if something happened in the school (Columbine) and nobody saved the poor children.

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    As everybody should know by now, Michigan requires open carry on K-12 school grounds, despite a concealed pistol license being required to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Trucker View Post
    Somebody should tell Mike Goodyear that since he is so disturbed by seeing an openly carried gun at a school, he should contact his state senator and DEMAND that SB58 be passed immediately, so he doesn't have to look at those scary guns anymore.









    Unfortunately Mr Goodyear would be the first person screaming if something happened in the school (Columbine) and nobody saved the poor children.
    Haha I like what you did there...see perfect example why SB58 needs to be passed, so they dont have to see our guns in PFZ in accordance with state law.
    The worst weapon is the human mind, its created and done things far worse than a gun can, has, or ever will. Its the human mind that tells the gun what to do and animates the inanimate object.

    With all these gun control laws in place I have yet to find a single one that has saved someones life, but I can find hundreds of stories where a gun has.

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    Too bad he screwed up the fact you can OC in a bank, theater, ect. with a CPL and a CPL is required to carry openly on school grounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    Too bad he screwed up the fact you can OC in a bank, theater, ect. with a CPL and a CPL is required to carry openly on school grounds.
    You can't expect media to get it right. After all it takes a 90 minutes seminar for Michigan open carry to fully explain the laws in Michigan. How can the news do it in two minutes? If someone can show me how, we need to shorten our seminar duration.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    This thread has been reported as a duplicate thread. Please avoid posting in it.
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    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    There was so much misinformation in the comments section I had to register and leave a comment with some pertinent law. We have a lot of work to do because most of those people would get in trouble with their incomplete knowledge of the law in regards to OC.

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    Well it won't last long when the school bans guns. From the article:

    TV5 did receive a statement from the district's superintendent.

    In part, it reads: "Mindful of public concern about this issue, the Board of Education has directed its legal counsel to evaluate alternative means of regulating the possession of fire arms on school property. The board expects to obtain further legal counsel from its attorneys in the near future and conduct a full review of its options."
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    yeah, like intimidation and threats. they should call waterford to find out exactly how to circumvent the law, right ven?
    it's too bad they didn't mention that you MUST be a CPL holder to OC on school property... hope this doesn' get anyone jammed up.
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    If the CADL v MOC appeals decision goes our way AND they issue a broad enough ruling saying the State occupies the entire field of firearms, schools won't have a leg to stand on. Cross your fingers.

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    Who would do such a thing? Openly carrying a firearm on school grounds!! The nerve of some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Who would do such a thing? Openly carrying a firearm on school grounds!! The nerve of some people.
    Yeah they should carry the gun concealed!


    Note to those who are new: Unless you are exempt from 28.425o DO NOT CARRY CONCEALED IN A SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!! I was using sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    Yeah they should carry the gun concealed!


    Note to those who are new: Unless you are exempt from 28.425o DO NOT CARRY CONCEALED IN A SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!! I was using sarcasm.

    But, But, Dr. Todd carries in a school all the time....OC of course.
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    I'll let you know how it goes when I go to vote on the 28th at a waterford school!! It won't be until about 6PM, I never had a problem in my last district but there's always a first time..



    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Who would do such a thing? Openly carrying a firearm on school grounds!! The nerve of some people.

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    i doubt they will try to interfere with your right to vote... but then again, you never know
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    Just keep pounding it home - open carry is required of CPL holders on K-12 school grounds in Michigan.

    More people need to routinely open cary on K-12 school grounds - that's the only way the public, press, and authoroties will figure out it's legal.

    One technique to use is to where your permit openly around your neck, and aslkked why you are open carrying on K-12 school grounds by the media, just say "because that is what the law requires, otherwise I would be carrying concealed."

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    I OC in a school almost daily. Never an issue. Conferences, meetings with principal, you name it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul C View Post
    I OC in a school almost daily. Never an issue. Conferences, meetings with principal, you name it.

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    Good to know that there are at least 2 who OC in a school daily.... I would have said 3 but I think the board member is only OCing a few times a month at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smellslikemichigan View Post
    yeah, like intimidation and threats. they should call waterford to find out exactly how to circumvent the law, right ven?
    it's too bad they didn't mention that you MUST be a CPL holder to OC on school property... hope this doesn' get anyone jammed up.
    Exactly.

    Someone should tell Waterford about this thread, they won't listen to me, and I'm pretty sure they still think it's illegal.

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