HB139 - constitutional carry...

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Emailed, called and posted on VAGT.

Just thinking out loud here...

How many of us are upset, nigh to the point of anger, over the half-dozen so-called "Castle Doctrine" bills that were submitted this year, and are being pushed by TPTB, despite our strong message that these bills are not what we want, and are not ready for prime-time, and will hurt our cause in the long run?

Now let's shift gears.

What if TPTB in the leadership of the legislature, perhaps even including Mr. Cole himself, know without a shadow of a doubt that this bill will not pass this year.

What "looks better" for our cause? Having it wait a year in Lingamfelter's pocket? Or having it forced out to die a very open and hotly debated death on the Floor of the House, where the Morrissey's can spend an hour making up lies and wildly bizarre scenarios that will have us killing Girl Scouts over paper-cuts.

Then what happens next year when the bill might (or might not!) come out again? ALL the anti-gun crazies will be practically yelling, "here come those gun nuts with their wild-wild-west bill again, which even last year with ALL the Republicans FAILED to pass!"

I'm just saying... the big picture is the only one that counts. We're all unhappy about the Castle Doctrine following the little picture, why are we rushing to push HB 139 down that exact same path?

TFred

Agent19 said:

Emailed, called and posted on VAGT.

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Delegate doesn't have any Committee assignments this evening. I'll stop by on the way to MPP and see if he can see me. At the very least, his LA should be there.

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peter nap said:

Delegate doesn't have any Committee assignments this evening. I'll stop by on the way to MPP and see if he can see me. At the very least, his LA should be there.

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I fixed it , thanks.

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I already got a letter back from Sickles. To quote he says "I do not think it is an undue burden to require every law-abiding citizens to obtain a permit to carry a handgun.". Such a joke that because the Supreme court didn't come out and say outside the home is well they assume that it is not a right.

Uber_Olafsun said:

I already got a letter back from Sickles. To quote he says "I do not think it is an undue burden to require every law-abiding citizens to obtain a permit to carry a handgun.". Such a joke that because the Supreme court didn't come out and say outside the home is well they assume that it is not a right.

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Try asking Sickles, in person, if he thinks it would be an "undue burden" to require every woman to obtain a permit - and an ultrasound - before getting an elective abortion.

Uber_Olafsun said:

I already got a letter back from Sickles. To quote he says "I do not think it is an undue burden to require every law-abiding citizens to obtain a permit to carry a handgun.". Such a joke that because the Supreme court didn't come out and say outside the home is well they assume that it is not a right.

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What the hell, does he know that there is no permit needed for OC?

Why do we keep electing people that have neither want, nor care to protect and uphold their oath to the constitution?

I wondered that myself when I read the letter. The last line of the letter is Virginia is a very gun owner friendly state and will certainly remain so.

Uber_Olafsun said:

I already got a letter back from Sickles. To quote he says "I do not think it is an undue burden to require every law-abiding citizens to obtain a permit to carry a handgun.". Such a joke that because the Supreme court didn't come out and say outside the home is well they assume that it is not a right.

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And so next year when tracking his position on gun rights, I'd sure hope that what I'll see going out on him is that he supports eliminating the constitutional right to bear arms. And every single voter needs to know that.

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hopefully it will get more support next yr.

said:

Thank you for contacting me with your support for HB 139. I agree with you about the legislation; I think it is a reasonable bill and would make Virginia safer. If I thought a motion to discharge the committee would work, I would do it. But in nearly 400 years of Virginia General Assembly history, I know of no discharge motion that has been successful. This one would not be successful either.

In fact, I think it might do more harm than good in the long run, as it would galvanize the opposition and might push some who are on the fence right now over to the other side. I am disappointed that the legislation will not move forward this session, but will continue to work to convince legislators that it is needed for the Commonwealth. I would ask you to help me in this effort by contacting your Delegate and Senator with your support for Constitutional Carry.

Again, thank you so much for your support of HB 139.

Mark L. Cole
Delegate, 88th District
Spotsylvania, Stafford, Fredericksburg, and Fauquier

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We will have to start our push for a Constitutional Carry Bill earlier next yr and hopefully we will get more support.

Agent19 said:

We will have to start our push for a Constitutional Carry Bill earlier next yr and hopefully we will get more support.

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It's never too early to start and I think it may be time for the Virginia Committee for Constitutional Carry, to be created.

peter nap said:

It's never too early to start and I think it may be time for the Virginia Committee for Constitutional Carry, to be created.

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Hear, hear!

Bcause it is the right thing to do.