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    OC of spare mags in a "posted" area

    Sorry if this has been asked and answered. I did a search and came up empty.

    I have seen, somewhere, that an empty holster is permissible even in a "posted GFZ" area, but couldn't find anything that stated what the rules would be surrounding spare mags/speedloaders.

    Again, please forgive me if it has been answered. If necessary, you can just respond in a PM and delete the thread!!
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    ThunderRanch I think it would fully depend on the situation at hand. Is the GFZ one in which there is existing statute forbids carry or simply a matter of a private GFZ? If the GFZ is a result of statute, the statute should be clear about what may be prohibited. If the GFZ is as a result of a sign or other posting, I'd look at the posting to see how detailed it is and what specifically is forbidden.
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    It's a GFZ. Nothing says you cannot have a holster, ammo, or other "stuff" unless (like the gun shows and courts) they specify no ammo.

    If they want to keep ammo as well as guns out they need to say so. What's the Latin quoted so often by User that if it aint in there they must not have intended to deal with it?

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    AFAIK OCing ammo and an empty holster is AOK except in a courthouse. The Code specifically IDs ammo as verboten in a courthouse and treats ammo the same as a gun. I've done this myself several times when picking up my son from school in full view of the SRO with no comments or problems.
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    Not quite the same, but I have a friend with a son at Varina High School. He was suspended for having a shotgun or rifle cartridge in his car, in the school parking lot. Will try to find out details as to how it was seen and the rational for his suspension.

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    If you are carrying loaded magazines but no gun, just be careful not to "cross the moat" into DC. possession of "unregistered" handgun ammo in DC is a misdemeanor, with one charge for EACH ROUND of up to $1000 fine and up to 1 year in prison...
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    I appreciate the response and info. I had pretty much assumed what you have confirmed.....if it's not specifically addressed, it isn't prohibited......but wanted the learned opinion of the good folk here!
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    Why would anyone want to carry spare mags / speedloaders in a restricted area if he / she couldn't carry a handgun into said area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Why would anyone want to carry spare mags / speedloaders in a restricted area if he / she couldn't carry a handgun into said area?

    Some of us are willing to "make a statement". Others of us just cannot spare the time to divest ourselves of all the things that might create PSH.

    Take you pick of which answer makes you feel better.

    BTW - do you pay more to the IRS than the amount indicated when you do all the math on the 1040 forms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post

    BTW - do you pay more to the IRS than the amount indicated when you do all the math on the 1040 forms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Some of us are willing to "make a statement". Others of us just cannot spare the time to divest ourselves of all the things that might create PSH.

    Take you pick of which answer makes you feel better.

    BTW - do you pay more to the IRS than the amount indicated when you do all the math on the 1040 forms?

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    I don't see how your question is relevant to the question I asked; but thanks for your response about how some are "making a statement" by carrying around their ammo even though there's no firearm on their person to use it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Why would anyone want to carry spare mags / speedloaders in a restricted area if he / she couldn't carry a handgun into said area?
    Whose business might that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    I don't see how your question is relevant to the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    I don't see how your question is relevant to the question I asked; but thanks for your response about how some are "making a statement" by carrying around their ammo even though there's no firearm on their person to use it in.

    Cheers.
    The sign says "no guns". It does not say "no ammunition" or "no holsters" or "no belts" or anything else. So why divest yourself of anything that is not compulsory to be divested? In the same vein, the IRS sets out tables telling you what amount of taxes you must pay. Would you willingly pay additional taxes because you are required to pay a certain amount compulsarily?

    Didn't think so. But you seem willing to divest yourself of other gun-related stuff just because there is a sign that says "no guns".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Whose business might that be?
    It was just a question, sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    It was just a question, sir.
    Simple answer: Because its convenient, they are my personal property, there is no reason to leave them somewhere they might be stolen.
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