Well...this is one gun owner who's not "asleep".
Originally Posted by Sean Lengell, TWT
Well...this is one gun owner who's not "asleep".
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Interesting story but I don't see obama being quoted there. Only Wayne making a statement. Nothing from obama saying it. Not saying obama will not try it. But seriously. There is no quote from obama saying it. Just someone expressing an opinion.
I'm not discounting the possibility that Obama and his administration might try this, but it seems much more likely the NRA spokesman quoted above is using the boogeyman tactic.
Yeah, I wish campaigning required evidence and fact checking.
So much misdirection from all of the players...
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"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." - George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796
Gun control is merely control, be it by the right or the left.
He doesn't want to destroy the 2A, he just wants "sensible gun control."
And personally I view this more as the boogeyman tactics as PPM stated. Not because he wouldn't do it if he could, but because I don't see how he could without the support of Congress; and there flat out isn't the support in Congress for it. I can see him trying to circumvent Congress but I don't think it would be hugely successful and could most likely be easily undone by the next POTUS (not that it wouldn't be painful for us until the damage was undone).
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"Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!" - Malcolm Reynolds
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For the short term we may not agree with all the laws written and that have gotten us into these dire straits, but with a Constitutional Republic restored we could then begin to right the wrongs.
I will vote Constitution Party.
King Wayne is predictable as clockwork. He says the exact same thing each and every election about whomever the Democratic frontrunner is.
Bit of a boy who cried wolf, if you ask me. But the NRA knows damn well election time is a good time for fundraising.
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Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch
There is no significant difference between the left wing of the Ruling Class and its right wing. Who do we the Country Class elect that will return us to a Constitutional Republic ruled by laws and not venial men.Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch
Um, you're....welcome, you?
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Sir Wayne is prognosticating once again. He is giving his panic speech; maybe to drive up membership.
Now, do I personally think KO will try to limit purchases, carrying etc; I would say he will take every opportunity, if presented to him, in the second term. KO is good about acting on other peoples recommendation; therefore, he doesn't have a lot of liability if it backfires.
Officially, Mitt Romney has done more to limit gun rights than Obama has at this time.
Either way, I guess I better make sure to vote for the guy who Gun Owners of America give their highest rating to: Ron Paul.
la Pierre is why I will not be renewing my NRA membership this year.
Just because he hasn't explicitly stated it doesn't mean it's not on his agenda. I hope my fellow gun enthusiasts, 2A supporters, and constitution lovers on this site don't buy into the bs this president spouts or alludes to. This guy is the absolute worse person we've had sitting in the White House since Carter or FDR.
I'm trying not to make this into a big presidential race thread, but I'll say this:
Patriot Act, NDAA, TARP, TSA, gun control, gun banning, increased taxes, raised the debt ceiling, etc...
...the non-Paul, non-Johnson candidates have all supported at least two or more of those things.
I mean, I want Obama out of there, but I don't know if I can bring myself to vote for anyone who supports NDAA.
You know what the Oath Keepers call NDAA? "Treason."
How does that joke go...
"I've decided to vote for the big-government, Patriot Act, NDAA candidate."
"Great! Now you just need to decide which party."
We are not able to work a problem that does not exist, if it does exist, then we have to catch up. Is it not better to be proactive vs. reactive?
He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare