Thread: Sometimes I wonder about folks
Open carrying at King's Wok in Silverdale:
I had my wife and both daughters with me, returning from loading up a plate. A gentleman from another table comes up to me, from behind, places his hand on my strong side shoulder and says "Open carry is illegal here."
My reply in a calm voice, "um, welcome to Washington, it is legal here." His reply "I have lived here all my life, no it's not and you are going to get in trouble." He then sat back down at the next table over and I sat down with my family.
If he really really thought it was illegal, why would he just sit back down and do nothing else? And why in Bogs name would you walk up BEHIND someone and touch them? He is rather lucky I am NOT jumpy or a combat veteran or his wrist would likely be
I am curious what others replies would ave been or should have been. Wife says "Not according to my research" my choice"Could you tell me which RCW I am violating?"
I would have told him to mind his own damn business.
- Being prepared is to prepare, this is our responsibility.
- I am not your Mommy or Daddy and do not sugar coat it but I will tell you simply as how I see it, it is up to you on how you will or will not use it.
- IANAL, all information I present is for your review, do your own homework.
I think your choice is the right one.
"When you can cite to me the RCW that prohibits it, come tell me and we can have a conversation."
THE SECOND AMENDMENT: Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent -- it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
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Isn't "Unwanted Touching" considered Battery (possibly even Assault) under the law? Did you find his hand on your shoulder offensive? Next time advise him that OC is perfectly legal but he is committing a crime himself.
BTW, if he lived all his life in Silverdale, the area was never known for it's abundance of wisdom. I grew up there and couldn't wait to get out of there. Left the day after graduation and haven't been back in over 50 years.
Last edited by amlevin; 02-12-2012 at 09:18 AM.
"If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying I either won't need anymore or more won't help"
"If you refuse to stand up for others now, who will stand up for you when your time comes?"
Isn't this sort of thing why the pamphlets were made?
"Then why does every urban police agency in Washington have a training bulletin saying it is legal?"
The last time somebody said that to me I looked at him, didn't try to hide the annoyance on my face, and asked, "Do you really think I just strapped a gun on my belt and walked out the door this morning without knowing the law?"
That was enough.
Well then, as a law abiding citizen who is so knowledgable in state law, you should also know the number to 911 and should report it.
If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas
"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
In some jurisdictions assault is defined as the threat of bodily harm that reasonably causes fear of harm in the victim while battery is the actual physical impact on another person. If the victim has not actually been touched, but only threatened (or someone attempted to touch them), then the crime is assault. If the victim has been touched in a painful, harmful, violent, or offensive way by the person committing the crime, this might be battery. Even a minor touching can qualify as batter providing it is painful, harmful, or offensive to the victim.
Key word in this case "offensive".
"The beauty of the Second Amenment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson
"Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
Meh, I think the OP was fine. I probably would have added at the end something like, "I appreciate your concern, but open carry is legal in Washington and if you want more information about it check out opencarry.org."
I have open carried there before and never had a problem. Every liberal thinks they need to voice their opinion and educate us instead of minding there own business
"Fight like you train, train like you fight"
What's wrong with you?Sometimes I wonder about folks
I always wonder about people. :P
He's lucky he didn't grab someone a bit more twitchy. I might have removed his hand from me in a most ungentle manner. Then handed him a brochure.
IMHO the perfect answer to someone who insists OC is illegal is, "Prove it!"
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
"I like people who stand on the Constitution... unless they're using it to wipe their feet." - Jon E Hutcherson
On the other hand, what sort of idiot approaches someone they are convinced is committing a crime, while the "criminal" is armed and they are not, and engages in behavior that is likely to provoke violence from a criminal?
the fact that they feel comfortable doing so (provoking and even physically grasping at an open carrier) shows that they really aren't so much IN FEAR of open carriers, as they are ANGERED/OUTRAGED by them.
they really do HATE guns.
I would have responded with "If you believe I am breaking the law then call the cops".