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    Sometimes I wonder about folks

    Open carrying at King's Wok in Silverdale:

    I had my wife and both daughters with me, returning from loading up a plate. A gentleman from another table comes up to me, from behind, places his hand on my strong side shoulder and says "Open carry is illegal here."

    My reply in a calm voice, "um, welcome to Washington, it is legal here." His reply "I have lived here all my life, no it's not and you are going to get in trouble." He then sat back down at the next table over and I sat down with my family.
    If he really really thought it was illegal, why would he just sit back down and do nothing else? And why in Bogs name would you walk up BEHIND someone and touch them? He is rather lucky I am NOT jumpy or a combat veteran or his wrist would likely be
    broken.
    I am curious what others replies would ave been or should have been. Wife says "Not according to my research" my choice"Could you tell me which RCW I am violating?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaeus View Post
    I am curious what others replies would ave been or should have been. Wife says "Not according to my research" my choice"Could you tell me which RCW I am violating?"
    Well, I would of pulled this picture out and asked; "Then why would the State Attorney General taken this picture with me in downtown Seattle?"

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    I would have told him to mind his own damn business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaeus View Post
    I am curious what others replies would ave been or should have been. Wife says "Not according to my research" my choice"Could you tell me which RCW I am violating?"
    An oldie but goodie, Look at them in the eye and tell them "Don't you just hate it when some think they know everything? As it just makes it harder on those of us who do!"
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    I think your choice is the right one.

    "When you can cite to me the RCW that prohibits it, come tell me and we can have a conversation."
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    Isn't "Unwanted Touching" considered Battery (possibly even Assault) under the law? Did you find his hand on your shoulder offensive? Next time advise him that OC is perfectly legal but he is committing a crime himself.

    BTW, if he lived all his life in Silverdale, the area was never known for it's abundance of wisdom. I grew up there and couldn't wait to get out of there. Left the day after graduation and haven't been back in over 50 years.
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    Isn't this sort of thing why the pamphlets were made?

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    "Then why does every urban police agency in Washington have a training bulletin saying it is legal?"

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    The last time somebody said that to me I looked at him, didn't try to hide the annoyance on my face, and asked, "Do you really think I just strapped a gun on my belt and walked out the door this morning without knowing the law?"

    That was enough.

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    Or...
    Well then, as a law abiding citizen who is so knowledgable in state law, you should also know the number to 911 and should report it.
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    In some jurisdictions assault is defined as the threat of bodily harm that reasonably causes fear of harm in the victim while battery is the actual physical impact on another person. If the victim has not actually been touched, but only threatened (or someone attempted to touch them), then the crime is assault. If the victim has been touched in a painful, harmful, violent, or offensive way by the person committing the crime, this might be battery. Even a minor touching can qualify as batter providing it is painful, harmful, or offensive to the victim.

    Key word in this case "offensive".

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    Meh, I think the OP was fine. I probably would have added at the end something like, "I appreciate your concern, but open carry is legal in Washington and if you want more information about it check out opencarry.org."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGutshotWilly View Post
    I think your choice is the right one.

    "When you can cite to me the RCW that prohibits it, come tell me and we can have a conversation."
    +1

    Pretty much my same response too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaeus View Post
    Open carrying at King's Wok in Silverdale:
    A gentleman from another table comes up to me, from behind, places his hand on my strong side shoulder and says "Open carry is illegal here."
    Maybe he was on Josh's jury.
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    I have open carried there before and never had a problem. Every liberal thinks they need to voice their opinion and educate us instead of minding there own business
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    Quote Originally Posted by .40S&W View Post
    I would have told him to mind his own damn business.
    I would hgave prefered something of a more backhanded approach like...your residency has no bearing on your ignorance of the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    Well, I would of pulled this picture out and asked; "Then why would the State Attorney General taken this picture with me in downtown Seattle?"

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    I don't have a cool picture like that one, but I do keep a copy of the Spokane County Sheriffs OC Bulletin and an OC pamphlet so I could hand it to them and say "the SHERIFF has no problems with OC..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor80 View Post
    I don't have a cool picture like that one, but I do keep a copy of the Spokane County Sheriffs OC Bulletin and an OC pamphlet so I could hand it to them and say "the SHERIFF has no problems with OC..."

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    Sometimes I wonder about folks
    What's wrong with you?

    I always wonder about people. :P

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    He's lucky he didn't grab someone a bit more twitchy. I might have removed his hand from me in a most ungentle manner. Then handed him a brochure.

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    IMHO the perfect answer to someone who insists OC is illegal is, "Prove it!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire suppressor View Post
    Every liberal thinks they need to voice their opinion and educate us instead of minding there own business
    On the one hand, I'm happy to see there's at least one liberal who isn't afraid of guns.

    On the other hand, what sort of idiot approaches someone they are convinced is committing a crime, while the "criminal" is armed and they are not, and engages in behavior that is likely to provoke violence from a criminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Difdi View Post
    On the one hand, I'm happy to see there's at least one liberal who isn't afraid of guns.

    On the other hand, what sort of idiot approaches someone they are convinced is committing a crime, while the "criminal" is armed and they are not, and engages in behavior that is likely to provoke violence from a criminal?
    in law enforcement, such persons are referred to as "chronic victims" or "professional victims"

    the fact that they feel comfortable doing so (provoking and even physically grasping at an open carrier) shows that they really aren't so much IN FEAR of open carriers, as they are ANGERED/OUTRAGED by them.

    they really do HATE guns.

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    I would have responded with "If you believe I am breaking the law then call the cops".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Difdi View Post
    On the one hand, I'm happy to see there's at least one liberal who isn't afraid of guns.

    This man may very well have been a lifelong gun owning conservative, ignorance of the laws concerning OC is far to common.

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