Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Baltimore police must allow photography and video...

  1. #1
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358

    Baltimore police must allow photography and video...

    A new written policy has been officially issued to the Baltimore police department stating that they must not "prevent and prohibit" photography or video recording of their actions.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-...,5470593.story


    There may be hope yet for the People's Republic of Maryland...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  2. #2
    Regular Member sawah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    437
    From the article:

    Stephens said officers "get annoyed with things from time to time, but once they've been given instructions, the overwhelming majority will act within the spirit and the letter of the policy. … Cameras are part of our world."
    ...and the overwhelming majority of officers will not cover for this minority who refuse to follow departmental orders.
    /sarcasm
    A firearm is a tool of convenience, not effectiveness - Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch

  3. #3
    Regular Member HandyHamlet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Terra, Sol
    Posts
    2,779
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post

    There may be hope yet for the People's Republic of Maryland...
    You are dreaming Sir.

    Time and again those policies have proven to be absolutely worthless in protecting citizens from the illegal actions of "police".

    Big Sis hates the 1st Amendment.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
    Abraham Lincoln

    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
    Alexcabbie

  4. #4
    Regular Member HandyHamlet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Terra, Sol
    Posts
    2,779
    Case and point...

    A day after the policy was issued the Thugs with badges are undeterred.




    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...s-police-union

    In Federal Hill, citizens allowed to record police - but then there's loitering..
    February 11, 2012|By Justin Fenton, The Baltimore Sun

    The officers on Saturday got Cover to stop filming, not by telling him to cease recording or seizing his camera. They told him he was loitering, and that he had to move along or risk arrest.

    It's a caveat - some might say loophole - in the new general order publicly trotted out by police on Friday, three days before they're due in court to argue in a lawsuti brought by the ACLU that they are properly addressing citizen's right to record.

    The new rule says that citizens have an "absolute right" to photograph or video record the enforcement actions taking place in public view. The chief legal counsel for the agency called it "an extension of the citizen's right to see. [An officer] wouldn't go up to a citizen at a crime scene and tell them to close their eyes, so the officer can't tell them they can't film."

    But the rules also says that the person recording may not "violate any section of any law, ordinance, code or criminal article" - such as loitering - while doing so. The officers on Cross Street seemed aware of that fine print.

    The police union says the officers acted appropriately and professionally; the ACLU says it shows there's more work to be done. "I think the inescapable takeaway is that the new policy,a nd any training that might have been conducted on the policy, have not been effective at changing the custom and practice of the BPD with respect to citizens' rights to record," said Deborah Jeon, of the Maryland ACLU.
    Last edited by HandyHamlet; 02-12-2012 at 11:15 PM.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
    Abraham Lincoln

    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
    Alexcabbie

  5. #5
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358
    The color of law in Baltimore is green. The only way the BPD will abide by the law is if they get the badges sued off them...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  6. #6
    Regular Member Sig229's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
    Posts
    926
    Glad to hear that the Constitution has prevailed.
    Now lets see if the corrupt BPD will abide (I doubt it).

    I never understood how police can arrest someone for "loitering" while standing on a public sidewalk (in reference to the video posted)
    "Let your gun be your constant companion during your walks" ~Thomas Jefferson

  7. #7
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358
    Quote Originally Posted by Sig229 View Post
    Glad to hear that the Constitution has prevailed.
    Now lets see if the corrupt BPD will abide (I doubt it).

    I never understood how police can arrest someone for "loitering" while standing on a public sidewalk (in reference to the video posted)

    There's the rub...

    An LEO can arrest you for moping with intent to creep if they want to.

    And even though they KNOW that the charges will be dropped, and the case thrown out, YOU still have to hire a lawyer, take time off work, and spend a LOT of time and money to avoid jail or fines. Meanwhile, they are laughing at you, and doing the same thing to the next guy who had the nerve to commit "contept of cop"...


    Someone needs to get all these people together who are being hassled, abused, and falsely arrested and detained by BPD and file a class-action Federal Civil Rights suit agianst the BPD, the Baltimore City Coucil, the Mayor of Baltimore, and the Chief of BPD. Let the City pay ut 7 or 8 figures to a few dozen people in one lump sum, and they might change their tune...



    On a side note, over the last two decades BPD has paid out more Federal Civil Rights settlements than ANY other LEA in the region, and they have one of the WORST Civil Rights Suit payout records of ANY LEA in the nation. You'd think they would have learned after the fiirst $20+ million. But I guess that the sociopathy in MD LEAs and MD Government runs soo deep that it's immune even to multimillion dollar punishments levied by the US DOJ...
    Last edited by Dreamer; 02-18-2012 at 01:53 AM.
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  8. #8
    Regular Member Sig229's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
    Posts
    926
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post



    On a side note, over the last two decades BPD has paid out more Federal Civil Rights settlements than ANY other LEA in the region, and they have one of the WORST Civil Rights Suit payout records of ANY LEA in the nation. You'd think they would have learned after the fiirst $20+ million. But I guess that the sociopathy in MD LEAs and MD Government runs soo deep that it's immune even to multimillion dollar punishments levied by the US DOJ...
    That might explain why taxes are so high in that area....
    "Let your gun be your constant companion during your walks" ~Thomas Jefferson

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •