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    SB 464 - Hunting on Sunday

    I've must of been asleep lately. Did this bill finally pass? If so, where can one find the language therein?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    I've must of been asleep lately. Did this bill finally pass? If so, where can one find the language therein?

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    http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp...?121+sum+SB464

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    I've must of been asleep lately. Did this bill finally pass? If so, where can one find the language therein?

    Thanks,
    It passed the Senate with amendments and today it was assigned to the House Agriculture sub committee,
    The Amendment is:
    (SB464) AMENDMENT(S) PROPOSED BY THE SENATE
    SEN. CARRICO

    • 1. Line 23, substitute, after kill


      • insert


        • (i) any wild bird or wild animal, including any nuisance species, on Sunday within 250 yards of a place of worship or any accessory structure or facility thereof or (ii)




        • Let's see if the dog hunters can screw this one up?


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    It passed the Senate with amendments and today it was assigned to the House Agriculture sub committee,
    The Amendment is:
    (SB464) AMENDMENT(S) PROPOSED BY THE SENATE
    SEN. CARRICO

    • 1. Line 23, substitute, after kill


      • insert


        • (i) any wild bird or wild animal, including any nuisance species, on Sunday within 250 yards of a place of worship or any accessory structure or facility thereof or (ii)




        • Let's see if the dog hunters can screw this one up?

    It may go around again to clarify exactly what a "nuisance species" is. In my book that would be:

    a) Ferrel hogs
    b) Coyotes

    did I leave any out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    It may go around again to clarify exactly what a "nuisance species" is. In my book that would be:

    a) Ferrel hogs
    b) Coyotes

    did I leave any out?
    Check the game regs at DGIF. Hogs aren't on the list I don't think. There aren't enough in Va to worry with. I think Skunks are on the list to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    It may go around again to clarify exactly what a "nuisance species" is. In my book that would be:

    a) Ferrel hogs
    b) Coyotes

    did I leave any out?
    1) politicians
    2) hoplophobes
    3) feral dogs/cats
    4) starlings/grackles/English sparrows
    5) non-migratory Canada geese/any Canada goose found on grounds of municipal parks, airports, golf courses
    6) dog hunters found armed while trespassing

    That ought to start to fill out the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Check the game regs at DGIF. Hogs aren't on the list I don't think. There aren't enough in Va to worry with. I think Skunks are on the list to.
    http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlife/nuisance/

    Species Defined as “Nuisance” Wildlife

    Under the Code of Virginia (4 VAC 15-20-160) ten species are defined as nuisance species. These include:
    Mammals


    Birds

    • European Starling (Sturnus vulgaris)
    • English (house) sparrow (Passer domesticus)
    • Pigeon (Rock Dove) (Columba livia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    1) politicians
    2) hoplophobes
    3) feral dogs/cats
    4) starlings/grackles/English sparrows
    5) non-migratory Canada geese/any Canada goose found on grounds of municipal parks, airports, golf courses
    6) dog hunters found armed while trespassing

    That ought to start to fill out the list.

    stay safe.
    Huh, that doesn't even start the list:

    Dog Hunters of any kind, Trespassers (Except scantly dressed young ladies) Democrats, MILITARY PILOTS, fat ladies in Spandex jogging suits, Old women in Leopard skin tights, small yapping dogs, other peoples kids, ATV'ers, Hikers, City People, Mountain Bikers, Game Wardens, Revenueers and Child Molesters.

    That's a pretty good start

    Oh did I mention Dog Hunters and Military Pilots. No limit on those Sons of B&%$%es

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    ^^^

    bahaha!!!
    you and sir skidmark are cracking me up!
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    Don't forget this bill:

    HB 855 Nuisance species; definitionto include coyotes and feral swine.


    Only change is to add coyotes and feral swine to this paragraph:


    "Nuisance species" means blackbirds, coyotes, crows, cowbirds, feral swine, grackles, English sparrows, starlings, or those species designated as such by regulations of the Board, and those species found committing or about to commit depredation upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops, wildlife, livestock or other property or when concentrated in numbers and manners as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance. However, the term nuisance does not include (i) animals designated as endangered or threatened pursuant to §§ 29.1-563, 29.1-564, and 29.1-566, (ii) animals classified as game or fur-bearing animals, and (iii) those species protected by state or federal law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post

    ...cut...

    Oh did I mention Dog Hunters and Military Pilots. No limit on those Sons of B&%$%es
    Understand dog hunters but I'd be interested in hearing why military pilots made your list. Don't know any but I would suspect the nature of the job would breed arrogance and cockiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911 Enthusiast View Post
    Understand dog hunters but I'd be interested in hearing why military pilots made your list. Don't know any but I would suspect the nature of the job would breed arrogance and cockiness.

    Imagine this....You're an anti social old goat that likes his peace and quiet,not bothering anyone and expecting to not be bothered... and then out of nowhere, one of those brainless little twerps comes across your farm, tree top high, full throttle. Now imagine two or three of those idiots doing it.

    Happens about every six weeks and no one ever seems to know who they belong to.

    The Helicopters are better. They're slow enough that they avoid me I got video of them and found their Commander.

    So....Military Pilots, Dog Hunters and Child Molesters....This ax handle's for you!

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    LOL, you guys crack me up. I guess Grumpy Old Men was a movie about Skid and Peter Nap.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    It passed the Senate with amendments and today it was assigned to the House Agriculture sub committee,
    The Amendment is:
    (SB464) AMENDMENT(S) PROPOSED BY THE SENATE
    SEN. CARRICO

    • 1. Line 23, substitute, after kill


      • insert


        • (i) any wild bird or wild animal, including any nuisance species, on Sunday within 250 yards of a place of worship or any accessory structure or facility thereof or (ii)




        • Let's see if the dog hunters can screw this one up?

    Wednesday, 5:00 p.m., 4th Floor West Conference Room

    this room needs to be packed. The chances of this bill getting a fair hearing are slim seeing how this is the same subcommittee that killed the house bills and is chaired by lee ware who has gone on record in the goochland gazette and the Richmond times dispatch as being opposed to this bill and a no vote if it gets to the house floor. our only recourse is to appeal to the members of the subcommittee to at least allow a fair hearing of the bill before the full committee. though i believe there is a reason this was assigned to this particular subcommittee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Imagine this....You're an anti social old goat that likes his peace and quiet,not bothering anyone and expecting to not be bothered... and then out of nowhere, one of those brainless little twerps comes across your farm, tree top high, full throttle. Now imagine two or three of those idiots doing it.

    Happens about every six weeks and no one ever seems to know who they belong to.

    The Helicopters are better. They're slow enough that they avoid me I got video of them and found their Commander.

    So....Military Pilots, Dog Hunters and Child Molesters....This ax handle's for you!
    You know, I totally agree with you. I used to live on Treasure Island in San Francisco, and every fleet week my vendetta with the Blue Angels was renewed as they assaulted my person and property in a unceasing barrage of... well, I don't know what. Broke some windows, though. About ten times worse than if some death metal band began playing a show in your living room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GT390FB View Post
    Wednesday, 5:00 p.m., 4th Floor West Conference Room

    this room needs to be packed. The chances of this bill getting a fair hearing are slim seeing how this is the same subcommittee that killed the house bills and is chaired by lee ware who has gone on record in the goochland gazette and the Richmond times dispatch as being opposed to this bill and a no vote if it gets to the house floor. our only recourse is to appeal to the members of the subcommittee to at least allow a fair hearing of the bill before the full committee. though i believe there is a reason this was assigned to this particular subcommittee.

    I've got a plan. We'll discuss it tonight.

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    Just to keep this in the OC category and to bump it, not all of us live near the beltway but haven't actively opposed some of the popular bills, we should have fought to the end.

    It would be nice to see a few show up for this. It would help my ego for supporting parking lot bills that don't concern me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I've got a plan. We'll discuss it tonight.
    well they rescheduled the hearing on short notice to this morning and tabled the bill on voice vote. guess they didn't want to go on record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlife/nuisance/

    Species Defined as “Nuisance” Wildlife

    Under the Code of Virginia (4 VAC 15-20-160) ten species are defined as nuisance species. These include:
    Mammals


    Birds

    • European Starling (Sturnus vulgaris)
    • English (house) sparrow (Passer domesticus)
    • Pigeon (Rock Dove) (Columba livia)

    I'm surprised that you didn't add CHP holders to that list!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    I'm surprised that you didn't add CHP holders to that list!
    only when they are hunting with dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Huh, that doesn't even start the list:

    Dog Hunters of any kind, Trespassers (Except scantly dressed young ladies) Democrats, MILITARY PILOTS, fat ladies in Spandex jogging suits, Old women in Leopard skin tights, small yapping dogs, other peoples kids, ATV'ers, Hikers, City People, Mountain Bikers, Game Wardens, Revenueers and Child Molesters.

    That's a pretty good start

    Oh did I mention Dog Hunters and Military Pilots. No limit on those Sons of B&%$%es

    Haha. That's a pretty comprehensive listing alright

    What the heck is there left to shoot at?

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    Need tree rats on the nuisance list as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GT390FB View Post
    well they rescheduled the hearing on short notice to this morning and tabled the bill on voice vote. guess they didn't want to go on record.
    Figures!
    I was on my way to the 5:00 when I got a call that they had taken my son to the hospital, so I would have missed the thing anyway.
    Last edited by peter nap; 02-15-2012 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom6zoom View Post
    Need tree rats on the nuisance list as well.
    Property owners can shoot them year round.

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    Dang it -- I say!!!

    Virginia: Sunday Hunting Tabled for Remainder
    of 2012 Legislative Session

    "Today, the state House Natural Resources Subcommittee tabled Senate Bill 464 for the rest of this current legislative session. SB 464, sponsored by state Senator Ralph Northam (D-6), would have allowed hunting on private land and public waterways on Sundays.

    Currently, Virginia is one of only six states in the country that strictly bans hunting on Sunday. This prohibition threatens the very future of our hunting heritage by discouraging hunter recruitment and retention. In addition, this antiquated ban harms Virginia’s economy."

    Retrieved 2/15/2010 from http://nraila.org/legislation/state-...spx?s=&st=&ps=

    And so on...

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