mobodyguard
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just spoke with a teacher that teaches ccw classes just informed me that if you have a ccw that the law states that you are not allowed to open carry. is this true. GIVE UR EVIDENCE
just spoke with a teacher that teaches ccw classes just informed me that if you have a ccw that the law states that you are not allowed to open carry. is this true. GIVE UR EVIDENCE
just spoke with a teacher that teaches ccw classes just informed me that if you have a ccw that the law states that you are not allowed to open carry. is this true. GIVE UR EVIDENCE
Some state DO REQUIRE per the CCW laws that the weapon be concealed. What does Missouri's statute actually say?
Carrying a concealed firearm in Missouri is a felony. Having a valid CCW permit exempts you from that statute. Open carry, on the other hand, is not restricted at all by the State of Missouri, and a CCW permit has no bearing on an openly carried firearm one way or the other.
Carrying a concealed firearm in Missouri is a felony. Having a valid CCW permit exempts you from that statute. Open carry, on the other hand, is not restricted at all by the State of Missouri, and a CCW permit has no bearing on an openly carried firearm one way or the other.
This is not complete and accurate information.
CCW permits do, in fact, have a bearing on OC in some jurisdictions. In Fair Grove, MO, it is against the city code to openly carry a firearm, but having a CCW exempts you from this code.
Bolivar is another municipality that regulates open carry based on ccw status. I was looking at it from the states point of view, anyone who can lawfully possess a firearm can open carry a firearm. Certainly municipalities and counties can regulate open carry in any fashion they see fit (up to and including a complete ban of open carry) and they could create an ordinance that forbids the open carry of a firearm if you have a ccw. I know of no jurisdiction that allows open carry for everyone except those with a ccw, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.
I guess for the sake of clarity, we would have to know if the instructor is referring to state statute or county/city ordinance.
I don't believe they could; or should I say, I don't believe it would mean anything. As per state law, you are only required to carry the CCW endorsement when you are carrying a concealed firearm. In a jurisdiction that enacted a ordinance such as you described above, a person who wanted to open carry would simply need to wear the gun in an exposed fashion and leave the CCW endorsement at home. One CANNOT be considered "authorized" to carry a concealed firearm if one does NOT have the CCW endorsement on their person.
I've tried to find a way around this but I keep getting stuck. If RSMo 21.750 allows political subdivisions to 'regulate the open carry, or discharge' of firearms. And the weapons offenses don't mention anything about open carry, unless of course you can't legally posses a firearm.. How could I get out of a citation from Bolivar, if their open carry regulations require me to have a ccw permit in order to open carry?
It's not regulating concealed carry exactly, so I can't get out of it that way. It's regulating open carry, but it's requiring me to have a ccw permit in order to open carry in that town.
This would all be so much easier if I could just talk them into changing 21.750, and let the state preemption rein supreme!
This is not complete and accurate information.
CCW permits do, in fact, have a bearing on OC in some jurisdictions. In Fair Grove, MO, it is against the city code to openly carry a firearm, but having a CCW exempts you from this code.