GlockRDH
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Ive OC'd in Cub foods in madison quite a bit...never have seen a sign nor been asked to leave...( i see its on your list)
Perhaps they took it down, no idea. I updated the list.Ive OC'd in Cub foods in madison quite a bit...never have seen a sign nor been asked to leave...( i see its on your list)
Hi,
I am thankful for one of your members alerting me to this thread. I feel like a politician. The interview lasted for about 7 minutes and the news clips what they want to air.
This is what I explained. I am for the concealed weapons, as a bad guy will do what he wants, and in the other 48 states that have the law, didn't turn out to be the wild west. I do have a concern with guns that are left in cars, example, my wife is a gun carrier, and if she has to run into a store, she puts her gun in the trunk (she is security). What happens if the gun gets stolen? My brother helps train some people in the Navy Seals (they are snipers) how to handle close range shooting (like what if you had to run, then shoot, how will your aim be affected,etc.) Yes, my brother and I shoot quite a few different guns.
Anyway, I did say that I will not allow concealed weapons in my jewelry store. Here is why. What if I did allow guns. You, as a good citizen, is shopping my store, and you see a theft go down. Our store does have a procedure of what to do, depending on the circumstances. But, now what if the good citizen takes out their gun, and causes the situation to escalate? What if there is an injury caused with that altercation? Who is responsible? What if that whole situation could have been avoided if the good citizen did not have the gun? This is a situation I do not want to be in, nor do I want that good citizen to get injured / injure someone else, and have to deal with the court system. We all know the courts could side with the bad guy, even if it is self defense.
I hope this explains my store's position.
Bret
(b) A person that does not prohibit an individual from
carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person
owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising
from its decision.
(c) An employer that does not prohibit one or more
employees from carrying a concealed weapon under sub.
(15m) is immune from any liability arising from its decision.
Hi,
I am thankful for one of your members alerting me to this thread. I feel like a politician. The interview lasted for about 7 minutes and the news clips what they want to air.
This is what I explained. I am for the concealed weapons, as a bad guy will do what he wants, and in the other 48 states that have the law, didn't turn out to be the wild west. I do have a concern with guns that are left in cars, example, my wife is a gun carrier, and if she has to run into a store, she puts her gun in the trunk (she is security). What happens if the gun gets stolen? My brother helps train some people in the Navy Seals (they are snipers) how to handle close range shooting (like what if you had to run, then shoot, how will your aim be affected,etc.) Yes, my brother and I shoot quite a few different guns.
Anyway, I did say that I will not allow concealed weapons in my jewelry store. Here is why. What if I did allow guns. You, as a good citizen, is shopping my store, and you see a theft go down. Our store does have a procedure of what to do, depending on the circumstances. But, now what if the good citizen takes out their gun, and causes the situation to escalate? What if there is an injury caused with that altercation? Who is responsible? What if that whole situation could have been avoided if the good citizen did not have the gun? This is a situation I do not want to be in, nor do I want that good citizen to get injured / injure someone else, and have to deal with the court system. We all know the courts could side with the bad guy, even if it is self defense.
I hope this explains my store's position.
Bret
"What-ifs" are a dime a dozen. For any scenario you can come up with that paints a law abiding gun carrier in a bad light, real-life history can document multiple cases in which they save the day.Hi,
I am thankful for one of your members alerting me to this thread. I feel like a politician. The interview lasted for about 7 minutes and the news clips what they want to air.
This is what I explained. I am for the concealed weapons, as a bad guy will do what he wants, and in the other 48 states that have the law, didn't turn out to be the wild west. I do have a concern with guns that are left in cars, example, my wife is a gun carrier, and if she has to run into a store, she puts her gun in the trunk (she is security). What happens if the gun gets stolen? My brother helps train some people in the Navy Seals (they are snipers) how to handle close range shooting (like what if you had to run, then shoot, how will your aim be affected,etc.) Yes, my brother and I shoot quite a few different guns.
Anyway, I did say that I will not allow concealed weapons in my jewelry store. Here is why. What if I did allow guns. You, as a good citizen, is shopping my store, and you see a theft go down. Our store does have a procedure of what to do, depending on the circumstances. But, now what if the good citizen takes out their gun, and causes the situation to escalate? What if there is an injury caused with that altercation? Who is responsible? What if that whole situation could have been avoided if the good citizen did not have the gun? This is a situation I do not want to be in, nor do I want that good citizen to get injured / injure someone else, and have to deal with the court system. We all know the courts could side with the bad guy, even if it is self defense.
I hope this explains my store's position.
Bret
Bret,
The new law states that if you do not post 'no guns', you are immune. The implication is that if you do post it, the immunity is not granted.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/enrolled/sb93.pdf
Page 13 175.60(21)(b) and (c):
I understand and respect your private property rights, however, I would not feel safe being disarmed shopping at your store.
Yeah... those of us who have been wrongfully arrested for carrying, then artfully interviewed (as you were), know all about that tactic.roberthaackdiamonds said:The interview lasted for about 7 minutes and the news clips what they want to air.
:banghead: Examples of problems, please, not hypotheticals.I am for the concealed weapons, as a bad guy will do what he wants, and in the other 48 states that have the law, didn't turn out to be the wild west.
But... [what if, what if, what if]
There's already a law that covers injuring (or killing) someone else in self-defense.nor do I want that good citizen to get injured / injure someone else, and have to deal with the court system. We all know the courts could side with the bad guy, even if it is self defense.
Dude, you're still chasing ghosts. Not very good at math? Columbine, Virginia Tech, Ft. Hood, countless Post Office shootings, school shootings, mall shootings... find one documented case of a gun being taken away from a law abiding citizen and used against them during a robbery that was already under way.Hi,
I understand both sides, my wife is a gun carrier, and is a business owner. She does not know who is coming in our store, if they are capable of handling a firearm in a very stressful situation. My wife has been in those situations, she has been fired at, it is not easy keeping your wits about you. Your adrenaline kicks in, and you might miss your target, and you might hit an innocent by standard.
What would happen if you come into the store, and a situation arises, and your gun is taken away from you, and used against you?
I respect the right to bear arms, as we do. I just don't want a situation to arise in my store, that could have been avoided if guns were not brought in. If a bad guy comes in with a gun, we do have procedures in place. We also have an armed guard in our store. Citizens just don't know what their response is going to be once you are put in a bad position, fight or flight? Many can say they will fight, but you never will know until you are in that position.
Please come to our facebook page, so more people can discuss this. It is under Robert Haack Diamonds. Keep in mind that my decision is never final. I wont delete any messages as long as the language is nice and civil. No hatred messages, we understand there is frustration, but please out of respect for everyone, please keep it as civil as possible. Thank you.
Bret
Fleet Farm? I thought they followed state law?Everyone should be posting these on that website, esp. as the new cc law goes into effect.
www.friendorfoe.us
Today I added Robert Haack Diamonds, Farm & Fleet, & Fleet Farm.