CharleyCherokee
Regular Member
Yesterday I was at Noble Park with my wife and son. My son loves the swing there so we put him in and let him swing for a good while. Afterwards, we put him in his stroller and went for a walk around the park. After about an hour or so we were finished and leaving. This is when an officer approached our car.
Officer: Mind stepping out and talking to me for a bit?
Me: Yes.
Officer: Why do you mind?
Me: Because we're leaving.
Officer: Well can I ask you a question? What do you have on your side over there, sir?
Me: Right now I don't have anything on my side.
Officer: Did you have a gun when you were getting in your car, though?
Me: Yeees.
Officer: You're going to need to step out and talk with me.
Me: No.
Officer: Yes, sir. You're going to have to.
Me: No.
Officer: Yes, sir. You're going to have to.
Me: No, I don't.
Wife: It's legal.
Officer: What was that?
Wife: Just step out and talk to him. It's legal.
Officer: All I want to do is just talk to you. You're not in any kind of trouble.
Me: Okay, but what I'm telling you is we're in a hurry and we're leaving.
Officer: Well here's the problem. Someone called in a complaint. So what I have to do is I actually have to check on you all. And talk to you all and make sure you're ok to carry a weapon.
Me: Yeah. We're fine.
Officer: You have to get out. (kind of chuckling) Can I explain why you have to?
Me: Sure explain it.
Officer: In the state of Kentucky when a cop gets out to you and they have to ask you your name and stuff and you deny them... I can actually arrest you for that, but I'm not going to do that.
Me: What's the law?
Officer: That is the law.
Me: No, it's not.
Officer: Yes, it is.
Me: What's your reasonable suspicion to even question me?
Officer: The fact I saw you get into a vehicle with a gun.
Me: And that's illegal?
Officer: If you're not allowed to carry a gun. Yes, sir, it is illegal.
Me: Ok. What's your reasonable suspicion?
Officer: Sir, you got into a car with a gun on your side. I don't have to have anything other than that to check your name.
Me: (scoffing) Yeah, you do.
Officer: (scoffing) No, I don't.
Me: Yeeees. You do.
Officer: No, sir, I don't.
Me: Ok. Are you detaining me?
Officer: Huh?
Me: Are you detaining me?
Officer: I am going to detain you right now if you don't cooperate.
Me: That's not what I asked. Are you detaining me RIGHT now?
Officer: I'm trying to do it the easy way.
Me: We are doing it the easy way. The easy way is I leave and go on about my business, because I was doing nothing illegal.
Officer: That's not going to happen.
Me: That is going to happen.
Officer: Okay.
Wife: Just get out and talk to him.
Officer: Go on and step out on that side for me, sir.
Me: I'm not stepping out.
Wife: Just talk to him. I'm not bailing you out of jail.
Me (to my wife): You're not going to have to bail me out of jail.
Wife: Just talk to him, because he will arrest you. (Almost in tears) And I can't deal with that.
Officer: Alright step out of the car.
Me (to officer): I'm not stepping out.
Officer: You are going to step out or I'm going to pull you out.
Wife (to me): Please get out of the car.
Me: I'm not stepping out.
Wife (to me): Please.
Officer (to other officer): (inaudible) doesn't want to give us any id after I saw him get into a car with a gun.
Wife: Please get out. I can't deal with it. (By this point I know not making it easier for my wife is making me look like an ass, but I'm stubborn.)
Officer 2: What's your name, sir?
Me: What's your name?
Officer 2: Officer Wilbur with the police department.
Me: Nice to meet you. I'm C.R. Pulley.
Officer 2: Nice to meet you. You doing alright tonight?
Me: I am. I was getting ready to leave. Minding my own business and he is trying to tell me I have to stop what I'm doing to talk with this gentleman.
Officer 2: Well let me tell you what's going on.
Me: I know what's going on.
Officer 2: What's going on?
Me: You saw me with a firearm and you don't like it so you're harassing me.
Officer 2: No I'm not harassing you. A citizen out here called that there was a white man with a white tea shirt and blue jeans (Me: Uhuh) and with a female with a pink shirt (Me: Uhuh) walking around with a gun on his side. (Me: Uhuh) I know it's not illegal to do that, but we still have a duty to check into the call (Me: You checked. Ok and so you checked right? Am I doing anything illegal?)
Officer 2: That's what I'm doing out here right now and when you start..... getting bent out of shape about it.
Me: I wasn't getting bent out of shape about it. He asked if he could talk to me, and I said no, because we're leaving.
Officer 2: Ok.
Me: And he wants to make an issue that I have to sit here and talk to him. Which I don't because I'm not doing anything illegal I'm trying to get on my way and be on with my business.
(At this time they decide they're not getting anywhere with me and decide to hassle my wife for her information.)
Officer 2: Do yo.... Does she have an id, because she's driving a car we just want to make sure everything is good with it.
Wife: Yes, I do.
Officer 2: Ok just sit tight. We'll check her id and get you on your way. Do you have an insurance card as well?
Wife: Yes, I do.
(Afterwards I ask the first cop for his name and badge number and we go on our way.)
Officer: Mind stepping out and talking to me for a bit?
Me: Yes.
Officer: Why do you mind?
Me: Because we're leaving.
Officer: Well can I ask you a question? What do you have on your side over there, sir?
Me: Right now I don't have anything on my side.
Officer: Did you have a gun when you were getting in your car, though?
Me: Yeees.
Officer: You're going to need to step out and talk with me.
Me: No.
Officer: Yes, sir. You're going to have to.
Me: No.
Officer: Yes, sir. You're going to have to.
Me: No, I don't.
Wife: It's legal.
Officer: What was that?
Wife: Just step out and talk to him. It's legal.
Officer: All I want to do is just talk to you. You're not in any kind of trouble.
Me: Okay, but what I'm telling you is we're in a hurry and we're leaving.
Officer: Well here's the problem. Someone called in a complaint. So what I have to do is I actually have to check on you all. And talk to you all and make sure you're ok to carry a weapon.
Me: Yeah. We're fine.
Officer: You have to get out. (kind of chuckling) Can I explain why you have to?
Me: Sure explain it.
Officer: In the state of Kentucky when a cop gets out to you and they have to ask you your name and stuff and you deny them... I can actually arrest you for that, but I'm not going to do that.
Me: What's the law?
Officer: That is the law.
Me: No, it's not.
Officer: Yes, it is.
Me: What's your reasonable suspicion to even question me?
Officer: The fact I saw you get into a vehicle with a gun.
Me: And that's illegal?
Officer: If you're not allowed to carry a gun. Yes, sir, it is illegal.
Me: Ok. What's your reasonable suspicion?
Officer: Sir, you got into a car with a gun on your side. I don't have to have anything other than that to check your name.
Me: (scoffing) Yeah, you do.
Officer: (scoffing) No, I don't.
Me: Yeeees. You do.
Officer: No, sir, I don't.
Me: Ok. Are you detaining me?
Officer: Huh?
Me: Are you detaining me?
Officer: I am going to detain you right now if you don't cooperate.
Me: That's not what I asked. Are you detaining me RIGHT now?
Officer: I'm trying to do it the easy way.
Me: We are doing it the easy way. The easy way is I leave and go on about my business, because I was doing nothing illegal.
Officer: That's not going to happen.
Me: That is going to happen.
Officer: Okay.
Wife: Just get out and talk to him.
Officer: Go on and step out on that side for me, sir.
Me: I'm not stepping out.
Wife: Just talk to him. I'm not bailing you out of jail.
Me (to my wife): You're not going to have to bail me out of jail.
Wife: Just talk to him, because he will arrest you. (Almost in tears) And I can't deal with that.
Officer: Alright step out of the car.
Me (to officer): I'm not stepping out.
Officer: You are going to step out or I'm going to pull you out.
Wife (to me): Please get out of the car.
Me: I'm not stepping out.
Wife (to me): Please.
Officer (to other officer): (inaudible) doesn't want to give us any id after I saw him get into a car with a gun.
Wife: Please get out. I can't deal with it. (By this point I know not making it easier for my wife is making me look like an ass, but I'm stubborn.)
Officer 2: What's your name, sir?
Me: What's your name?
Officer 2: Officer Wilbur with the police department.
Me: Nice to meet you. I'm C.R. Pulley.
Officer 2: Nice to meet you. You doing alright tonight?
Me: I am. I was getting ready to leave. Minding my own business and he is trying to tell me I have to stop what I'm doing to talk with this gentleman.
Officer 2: Well let me tell you what's going on.
Me: I know what's going on.
Officer 2: What's going on?
Me: You saw me with a firearm and you don't like it so you're harassing me.
Officer 2: No I'm not harassing you. A citizen out here called that there was a white man with a white tea shirt and blue jeans (Me: Uhuh) and with a female with a pink shirt (Me: Uhuh) walking around with a gun on his side. (Me: Uhuh) I know it's not illegal to do that, but we still have a duty to check into the call (Me: You checked. Ok and so you checked right? Am I doing anything illegal?)
Officer 2: That's what I'm doing out here right now and when you start..... getting bent out of shape about it.
Me: I wasn't getting bent out of shape about it. He asked if he could talk to me, and I said no, because we're leaving.
Officer 2: Ok.
Me: And he wants to make an issue that I have to sit here and talk to him. Which I don't because I'm not doing anything illegal I'm trying to get on my way and be on with my business.
(At this time they decide they're not getting anywhere with me and decide to hassle my wife for her information.)
Officer 2: Do yo.... Does she have an id, because she's driving a car we just want to make sure everything is good with it.
Wife: Yes, I do.
Officer 2: Ok just sit tight. We'll check her id and get you on your way. Do you have an insurance card as well?
Wife: Yes, I do.
(Afterwards I ask the first cop for his name and badge number and we go on our way.)
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