Allow me to paraphrase what the judge said...ahem:
"go **** yourself"
What the Judge DID say to ME in open court was "Get up Tallahassee and make them fix this law!"
Allow me to paraphrase what the judge said...ahem:
"go **** yourself"
What the Judge DID say to ME in open court was "Get up Tallahassee and make them fix this law!"
What the Judge DID say to ME in open court was "Get up Tallahassee and make them fix this law!"
ok, so i know the jury convicted him...but..if the legislature specifically made this law to apply to CWFL holders, and the jury said no, then wtf good is this law?
it's now obvious per this judge's denial to dismiss, that citizens of florida are not getting equal protection under a law the florida legislature has enacted....
i mean there's gotta be a situation or report from some CWFL holder about an incident in the past year where their gun was exposed, a cop saw it, and then politely told them to cover it up.
i don't know if i make any sense...i'm just saying- what good is this law, made specifically for CWFL holders, if it's not enforced?
honestly- the video we've seen shows us dale was OCing for about 14 seconds (he becomes visible on dash cam at the 20 second mark, and the cop approaching from the rear exits his vehicle at 34 seconds.). and only in 6 of those seconds do we see what "looks" like a gun, when he turns to face the cop at 34 seconds......if 14 seconds isn't brief, i don't know what is...
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NICEVILLE - Police were summoned to a fast-food restaurant after receiving reports of a man displaying a gun.
On July 21 the Niceville Police Department dispatched officers to the Chick-Fil-A on John Sims Parkway after*an employee*reported a man wearing an orange T-shirt and jeans, weighing about 350 pounds, with red hair, was armed with a handgun and displaying it inside the business.
When they arrived officers found a man who matched the description and moved toward him. They asked the man to step outside so they could talk to him. The man said, "Before we do, can I show you something?" and reached toward his waistline. The officer grabbed his hand and told him not to reach toward his pants for any reason.
An officer asked the man if he were armed with a gun. The man said he was and*had a concealed weapon permit. They went outside to continue the conversation.
The officer removed the man's wallet from his back pocket so he could show them his weapons permit. The permit stipulates that the gun must not be visible and remain concealed at all times. The man said he made "a bad judgment call."
The officers returned his documents and his gun, a .22-caliber revolver. Chick-Fil-A, however, didn't want him on the property and asked the officer to issue him a trespass warning.
SO...............this means we dont have open carry? Whats next then? Appeal this discision to the Florida Supreme Court? How long for this?
What the Judge DID say to ME in open court was "Get up Tallahassee and make them fix this law!"
The court denied the State's motion to dismiss the appeal yesterday.
Good idea not putting eggs in one basket, but I can't imagine the courts ever giving us OC. I would be astonished and my entire world view as it relates to the effectiveness of the legal system would have to be softened some. Sad that it's going to be such a struggle to get it though the Senate with 26 R's and one amenable Democrat.
Barriers are meant to be removed - never say never. Florida has had OC before.
Statements with "never", "always", and the like are destined to be proven wrong at some point. Never is forever, and nothing is forever.
Barriers are meant to be removed - never say never. Florida has had OC before.
I always ain't never gonna say that no more.
I never understood why there is always a wise guy lurking on these forums.
Actually, he wasn't wearing a belt so it's quite possible his shirt covered the holster until his shorts began to ride down. Nonetheless, the prosecution will have to prove his firearm was visible, not his holster.
likely to be unpopular here, but my take is:
my favorite restaurant there!! Lol his "pants riding down" are no accident. his "sag" got his ass busted. he couldnt have imagined this was going to end well, walking down us-1 with his pants hanging off his butt, and a gun plainly in view. did he have a flapped holster completely concealing the gun? i'm casting my vote for unlikely. i'm all for protecting our 2A rights, but a line has to be drawn. we can't imagine everyone that has a ccw is somehow "right", when they're clearly in the wrong. 2 blocks from the police hq was no place to get relaxed with your carry. carrying and sagging should never be your fashion statement. just my .02 cents, YMMV.
It may pave the way to Open Carry for us all.