off duty chicago cop dressed as clown kills robber

lil_freak_66 · Jun 18, 2011

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110618...lYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDb2ZmLWR1dHljb3Bk

CHICAGO – An off-duty Chicago police officer dressed as a clown for a fundraiser shot and killed a teen who authorities say was trying to rob him.
Police say the officer was headed home from a children's event Friday night when the suspect approached him, asking for money.
When the officer said he didn't have any, police say the teen pulled a gun.
After a struggle, the officer grabbed the gun and fired, killing the teen.
The officer sustained minor injuries. A weapon has been recovered.
Authorities haven't released the names of those involved.
The Independent Police Review Authority is investigating the incident.

tcmech · Jun 19, 2011

We all know this could not really happen in the gun free utopia of Chicago

SFCRetired · Jun 20, 2011

"off duty chicago cop dressed as clown"

I thought that saying "Chicago cop" and "clown" was a bit redundant.

Seriously, kudos to this officer for being prepared and for acting, although it is sad the teen had to lose his life. The sadness, BTW, is for his parents and any siblings who have to deal with his loss.

I have no sympathy for the young man who made a very bad choice. The only positive note is that he will not put someone else's life in danger.

cyras21 · Jun 20, 2011

if this was someone other then a cop do you think they would be prosecuted? After all, once the weapon is removed from the criminal where is the threat?

SFCRetired · Jun 20, 2011

cyras21 said:
if this was someone other then a cop do you think they would be prosecuted? After all, once the weapon is removed from the criminal where is the threat?

One weapon was removed. Were there others? What was the size/age of the deceased? What was the size/age of the police officer?

Depending on the answers to those questions, I do not think a citizen would be prosecuted. In my own situation, if attacked by a healthy teenager, I would be hard up to defend myself and prevent being badly injured or killed. That is a factor of my age and overall physical condition.

Although the officer gained control of the weapon, his life, and the lives of others, may still have been in immediate jeopardy.

Yes, I will admit that all of this, except my age and condition, is conjecture. But I think those are questions that would be asked.

dmatting · Jun 20, 2011

it's a circus up there

eye95 · Jun 20, 2011

cyras21 said:
if this was someone other then a cop do you think they would be prosecuted? After all, once the weapon is removed from the criminal where is the threat?

Um...you weren't there. You don't know. The gaining control of the gun and the shooting during an ongoing struggle could've happened virtually simultaneously as the struggle for control of the gun continued.

Had this been a citizen, not a LEO, how would you have reacted to the story? When this story was posted, my first reaction was to wonder how long it would be before an anti-cop reaction was posted. Now we know.

Trekker · Jun 20, 2011

dmatting said:
it's a circus up there

Yes, got to stop clowning around.

Why was the off duty officer not carrying, or was he not able to get to his weapon?

RetiredOC · Jun 20, 2011

^ I read this and though, "well you don't see that everyday"

Dreamer · Jun 20, 2011

Sometimes satire just writes itself...

cyras21 · Jun 21, 2011

eye95 said:
Um...you weren't there. You don't know. The gaining control of the gun and the shooting during an ongoing struggle could've happened virtually simultaneously as the struggle for control of the gun continued.

Had this been a citizen, not a LEO, how would you have reacted to the story? When this story was posted, my first reaction was to wonder how long it would be before an anti-cop reaction was posted. Now we know.

How is this anti-cop? It's a simple question based on previous cases around the country

eye95 · Jun 21, 2011

cyras21 said:
if this was someone other then a cop do you think they would be prosecuted? After all, once the weapon is removed from the criminal where is the threat?

That first sentence sure makes it sound as though you think a cop got away with something that someone other than a cop would not have. That would be anti-cop. If you really were only wondering whether a shooter in that situation should or should not have been prosecuted, wouldn't, "Do you think the shooter should be prosecuted? After all, once..." have been a better way to make the point without making it appear that you think that the lack of prosecution is due solely to the shooter being a cop?

cyras21 said:
How is this anti-cop? It's a simple question based on previous cases around the country

cyras21 · Jun 22, 2011

eye95 said:
That first sentence sure makes it sound as though you think a cop got away with something that someone other than a cop would not have. That would be anti-cop. If you really were only wondering whether a shooter in that situation should or should not have been prosecuted, wouldn't, "Do you think the shooter should be prosecuted? After all, once..." have been a better way to make the point without making it appear that you think that the lack of prosecution is due solely to the shooter being a cop?

Not at all...we all know police are given the benefit of doubt while everyday citizens have their actions scrutinized. It's just the way it is.

eye95 · Jun 22, 2011

And I see both of your posts as anti-cop. I found out what I needed to know.

Moving on.

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