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Illinois carry

DrTodd

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zigziggityzoo said:
Not according to the law.
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LOL. I would have said this too, but wasn't sure if he meant that Casper couldn't "car carry" in Michigan without a home state CPL or that he couldn't "car carry" in Illinois without a home-state CPL. The first statement would be "true", the second, as you pointed out, would be "false".
 
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I'm brave enough. The law clearly allows those who can carry in public in their home state to do so in their car while in Illinois.
 
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xmanhockey7 said:
I'm brave enough. The law clearly allows those who can carry in public in their home state to do so in their car while in Illinois.
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The way I take it is Illinois residents cannot carry in their vehicle. Sounds like a good basis to challenge that brown sandwich of a law.
 
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Since Zig didn't answer my question on MGO I am going to cross post it here:

zigziggityzoo said:
http://handgunlaw.us.


Essentially, if you're legal to possess/carry a gun in your home state, then you can possess/carry in a vehicle in Illinois.


Must be locked up and unloaded when leaving the car, but while you're present in the vehicle it can be loaded and on your person.


They have preempted the whole state on this.
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I was under the impression it didn't have to be unloaded if it was left in the cabin of a locked vehicle but if you get out to put it in the trunk it must be unloaded before you exit the vehicle. Am I reading this wrong? I don't see where it says it must be unloaded.


Subsection (b) of Section 65 States:

(b) Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of
subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a
prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a
concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a
firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view
within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area
surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or
retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is
unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment
or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a
firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container
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fozzy71 said:
Since Zig didn't answer my question on MGO I am going to cross post it here:
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I never thought I'd say this but zigziggityzoo is wrong(on this:)).
This entire part of the law is specifically for those with an Ill license and are in the parking lot of a gun free zone. Some websites even quote that part of the law and rumor we can "carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle". This is completely wrong!
Subsection (b) of Section 65 States:

(b) Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area
surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container
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Unless You have the Ill license this means nothing.
 
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Golden Eagle said:
I never thought I'd say this but zigziggityzoo is wrong(on this:)).
This entire part of the law is specifically for those with an Ill license and are in the parking lot of a gun free zone. Some websites even quote that part of the law and rumor we can "carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle". This is completely wrong!

Unless You have the Ill license this means nothing.
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Non-residents must still comply to Subsection (b) of Section 65 to meet unattended vehicle requirements.

Section 40

(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:


(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
Unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the
vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
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ETA: http://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/043000660K40.htm
 
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Venator

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DrTodd said:
LOL. I would have said this too, but wasn't sure if he meant that Casper couldn't "car carry" in Michigan without a home state CPL or that he couldn't "car carry" in Illinois without a home-state CPL. The first statement would be "true", the second, as you pointed out, would be "false".
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Ok so as long as a non-resident can carry a firearm in their home state they can carry a loaded firearm in their vehicle in Ill?
 
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Venator said:
Ok so as long as a non-resident can carry a firearm in their home state they can carry a loaded firearm in their vehicle in Ill?
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Per Section 40:

(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
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Our laws of this state (750.227) require a CPL to carry (CC or OC) a loaded and/or accessible pistol in our vehicle.

Subsection (2) of Section 40 above would also require a CPL for a resident of Michigan to carry a loaded pistol in a vehicle while in Illinois. IMO
 
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SpringerXDacp said:
Per Section 40:



Our laws of this state (750.227) require a CPL to carry (CC or OC) a loaded and/or accessible pistol in our vehicle.

Subsection (2) of Section 40 above would also require a CPL for a resident of Michigan to carry a loaded pistol in a vehicle while in Illinois. IMO
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The law says eligible to "CARRY IN PUBLIC" not eligible to "CARRY IN A VEHICLE".

MCL 28.422 license to Purchase CARRY, possess, transport a pistol is a license to CARRY IN PUBLIC, is it not?

If the Illinois law required a license from your home state to carry in a vehicle, would they not have said "VEHICLE" instead of "PUBLIC"?
 
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zigziggityzoo said:
The law says eligible to "CARRY IN PUBLIC" not eligible to "CARRY IN A VEHICLE".

MCL 28.422 license to Purchase CARRY, possess, transport a pistol is a license to CARRY IN PUBLIC, is it not?

If the Illinois law required a license from your home state to carry in a vehicle, would they not have said "VEHICLE" instead of "PUBLIC"?
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If you're carrying in your vehicle while commuting US23, or the streets of Ann Arbor, where are you?
 
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SpringerXDacp said:
If you're carrying in your vehicle while commuting US23, or the streets of Ann Arbor, where are you?
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If you're walking down Michigan Avenue on the sidewalks, where are you?

What's that? That's legal? You mean it's legal for you to carry a firearm in public?

Well then, I would say that satisfies the requirement in the law.

sure you can't carry in a car without additional licensing, but nor can you carry in a bar or tavern, or into a casino, all of which are "the public" as well.
 
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