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Restraint in defensive use of a gun must come first

Law abider

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A Madison police officer was confronted by people when he approached a confrontation between two people. He was praised for his restraint. More police officers arrived and arrests were made.
I realize that if we were in a situation like one described, we won't get a backup. What will we do? Avoid helping the victim or calm the situation down and then help out? Or call police and wait to see if the victim is going to loose their life and only then inject your self in the situation. Or just simply run away.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rawl-we-need-to-start-killing-these-officers/
 

DeSchaine

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He's one lucky LEO. That could have gone ugly so fast.

One thing puzzles me though.... the article makes it sound like pepper spray is illegal for civilian use in WI. This true?
 

skidmark

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. What will we do?

I believe this may answer your question. Just change "-police" and "officers" to "busybody"

The officer said that as he went to arrest the woman he was surrounded by a crowd that was voicing anti-police sentiments, including "We need to start killing these officers."

http://www.channel3000.com/news/MPD-officer-confronted-by-crowd-punched-police-say/35082128

The mere words do not, IMHO, constitute an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury, but the totality of the circumstances might. A lot depends on how your defense attorney spins your story.

Who have I heard say something along the line of "Yes. Yes, I shot him. He was <insert description of behavior>. I meant to shoot him until he stopped being a threat"?

Of course, IANAL and YMMV, not valid without qualifying purchase, only one offer per visit, no substitutions, no plate sharing, etc.

stay safe.
 

color of law

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He's one lucky LEO. That could have gone ugly so fast.

One thing puzzles me though.... the article makes it sound like pepper spray is illegal for civilian use in WI. This true?
http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/code/admin_code/jus/14.pdf
http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/941/III/26/4/m

If used offensively.
(d) Whoever intentionally uses a device or container described under par. (a) to cause bodily harm or bodily discomfort to a person who the actor knows, or has reason to know, is a peace officer who is acting in an official capacity is guilty of a Class H felony.
(e) Whoever uses a device or container described under par. (a) during his or her commission of another crime to cause bodily harm or bodily discomfort to another or who threatens to use the device or container during his or her commission of another crime to incapacitate another person is guilty of a Class H felony.
 
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