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ssherman

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This is the only thing I have found and it says riverboat gambling operation, but nothing about a regular casino.


Any riverboat gambling operation accessible by the public without the consent of the owner or manager pursuant to rules promulgated by the gaming commission. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises of a riverboat gambling operation shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises;
 

mspgunner

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This is the only thing I have found and it says riverboat gambling operation, but nothing about a regular casino.


Any riverboat gambling operation accessible by the public without the consent of the owner or manager pursuant to rules promulgated by the gaming commission. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises of a riverboat gambling operation shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises;

If you want to be the court test case, give it a try, you'll need a lawyer and a lot of cash!
 

ChiangShih

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Probably not a smart move either way. No one can stop you if you wish to try, but not a good idea.
 

kcgunfan

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I would strongly encourage you not to get legal advice from police departments. They are frequently wrong. I'm not in the St Louis area, but I'm pretty sure OC is just fine in St. Charles.

just called the St. Charles police dept. and St. Charles is not an open carry city, so that takes OC of the table.
 

mspgunner

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That is me in the video and that was the 1st and last time I was detained in St Charles City. I still OC there and have had LEO's look at me and my firearm and just keep on walking. Who ever told someone that OC was illegal in St Charles was wrong.

Doc

I might just mention.... This encounter was one of the "best" educational experiences for LOEs in St. Charles anyone could ask for. I now OC in St. Charles with confidence and without concern of LEO encounters. They just look and keep on doing what they are suppose to do. This encounter made a big difference both in and outsdie of the St. Charles City limits.
I applaud sohighlyunlikely for his efforts in OC awareness, he does it very well.
 

lancers

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This is the only thing I have found and it says riverboat gambling operation, but nothing about a regular casino.


Any riverboat gambling operation accessible by the public without the consent of the owner or manager pursuant to rules promulgated by the gaming commission. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises of a riverboat gambling operation shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises;

They are all riverboat casinos in Missouri according to the law and the gaming commission. They are all built on the water.
 

cshoff

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They are all riverboat casinos in Missouri according to the law and the gaming commission. They are all built on the water.

Correct. Every casino in Missouri is a "riverboat gambling operation", and ALL of them come under authority of the Gaming Commission. The Gaming Commission (not the state) PROHIBITS firearms in casinos. Period. They will not even allow an off-duty LEO in with a gun, and all of them I've been in (which, admittedly, is only a few), have metal detectors that you must walk through to enter which are staffed by security personnel. I'm willing to wager that you can forget about OC OR CC in any casino in this state.
 
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Festus_Hagen

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Correct. Every casino in Missouri is a "riverboat gambling operation", and ALL of them come under authority of the Gaming Commission. The Gaming Commission (not the state) PROHIBITS firearms in casinos. Period. They will not even allow an off-duty LEO in with a gun, and all of them I've been in (which, admittedly, is only a few), have metal detectors that you must walk through to enter which are staffed by security personnel. I'm willing to wager that you can forget about OC OR CC in any casino in this state.
Last year we had a room on the riverfront and went to the boat. There was no way I was going there and back after dark without a gun. I took my LCP and had no problems.

YMMV .
 

cshoff

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Last year we had a room on the riverfront and went to the boat. There was no way I was going there and back after dark without a gun. I took my LCP and had no problems.

YMMV .

Well there you go. I'm assuming they did NOT have metal detectors at the door. I've never been to any of the boats in STL city. The two I've been two in Earth City BOTH had metal detectors and security at the door. Of course, I haven't been to any casino in about 6 years, so that may have changed.
 

Festus_Hagen

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Well there you go. I'm assuming they did NOT have metal detectors at the door. I've never been to any of the boats in STL city. The two I've been two in Earth City BOTH had metal detectors and security at the door. Of course, I haven't been to any casino in about 6 years, so that may have changed.
I would say thatalot of them may have them installed. This one ( Ameristar ) didn't at the time. I went to Boonville this year and also took the LCP since I got to thinking about it last night . I had forgotten about that. It was this past spring.

I hate casino's, but my wife wanted to go .....
 

Tony4310

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Whom ever told you that is wrong...... You can in fact open carry in St.Charles. Who ever told you that either doesn't know the law or just flat out lied to you. We recently did an OC dinner in St.Charles and a cop did stop in to eat and seen us and went about his business.

just called the St. Charles police dept. and St. Charles is not an open carry city, so that takes OC of the table.
 

LMTD

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They will not even allow an off-duty LEO in with a gun, and all of them I've been in (which, admittedly, is only a few), have metal detectors that you must walk through to enter which are staffed by security personnel.

Just one mild correction, those are NOT security guards, they are indeed law enforcement, a branch of the Missouri state highway patrol. I mention it because the rules are significantly different for how one must interact. You can ignore a security guard but a lawful order from a LEO has penalties.
 

kcgunfan

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All casinos in MO are riverboat casinos, because that's the only kind the law permits, and I don't think there are any Indian casinos. Now, the gambling commission has a pretty loose definition of a riverboat, but that doesn't mean it's a regular casino.

Also, it's a bad idea to get your legal advice from YouTube videos also. Laws change, but videos remain the same.
 
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