WA State Senate nominee arrested in Vegas with for illegal CCW

Dave_pro2a · Jan 28, 2011

A little off topic, but a whole lot of funny. You'd think someone with political aspirations would be more careful.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014065475_nomineegun29m.html

FMCDH · Jan 28, 2011

Odd, all he had to do was put it in the glove box and he would have been fine, even if it were loaded. Heck, even if he was OCing it in a holster he would have been fine, but tucking it into a waistband probably put his shirt over it.

I guess he didn't do his homework before he went down there.

edited to add: Whats up with waistband carry lately? Is it the press that just doesn't know what a IWB holster is, or are people that broke they cant afford to spend $25 on something to properly secure a firearm on their body?

bikemutt · Jan 28, 2011

He may get a break if he at least has a WA CPL, if not, he's porked.

VW_Factor · Jan 28, 2011

FMCDH said:
Odd, all he had to do was put it in the glove box and he would have been fine, even if it were loaded. Heck, even if he was OCing it in a holster he would have been fine, but tucking it into a waistband probably put his shirt over it.

I guess he didn't do his homework before he went down there.

edited to add: Whats up with waistband carry lately? Is it the press that just doesn't know what a IWB holster is, or are people that broke they cant afford to spend $25 on something to properly secure a firearm on their body?

I kinda wonder the same thing. 15 bones will net you a cheap Uncle Mike's IWB thingy.

FMCDH · Jan 28, 2011

bikemutt said:
He may get a break if he at least has a WA CPL, if not, he's porked.

Not likely.

Nevada changed it reciprocity back in mid 2009 to no longer recognize Florida or Utah permits so as to force carriers of those two most popular non-resident permit types to come to the state and spend money on their own permit.

They are very "intentional" on what they do with reciprocity in that state.

bikemutt · Jan 28, 2011

Good to know FMCDH, I'm headed to the silver state next month. No plans to carry there.

I was hunting last year with a guy from NV, his CPL states which pistols he's entitled to carry, kinda pisses him off, but it is what it is.

Anyway, I was thinking the nascent WA lawmaker might be cut some slack if he can legally carry at home and just "slipped up" when he crossed into NV, ignoring the other states like OR for now. The old "honest" mistake argument.

Jeff Hayes · Jan 28, 2011

Roy Murry is an open carry advocate from Spokane.

Dave_pro2a whats so funny? Please fill me in cause I am just not getting the joke.

Roy has quality gear and quality firearms I would be very surprised if he was carrying Mexican.

My guess is the charges are trumped up.

Dave_pro2a · Jan 28, 2011

Orphan said:
Dave_pro2a whats so funny? Please fill me in cause I am just not getting the joke.

What isn't funny. Mexican carry, asleep in car, Las Vegas, politico thinking 'the law is for thee, and not for me.'

Of course, all alleged until he isn't charged based on political influence or connections

Jeff Hayes · Jan 28, 2011

Dave_pro2a said:
What isn't funny. Mexican carry, asleep in car, Las Vegas, politico thinking 'the law is for thee, and not for me.'

So you believe everything that is written in the newspaper, why am I not surprised.

KBCraig · Jan 28, 2011

I've seen news reports say a gun was "tucked in his waistband", when it actually involved a nice IWB holster. So, I never give any credit to that phrase.

FMCDH · Jan 29, 2011

KBCraig said:
I've seen news reports say a gun was "tucked in his waistband", when it actually involved a nice IWB holster. So, I never give any credit to that phrase.

Not sure an IWB would be my first pick of holsters when my ONLY option was OC for carry, but I hear what your saying. It does make one wonder if its just the ignorance of the media reporting the incident.

BigDave · Jan 29, 2011

Anytime something is written like "carrying a concealed weapon in his waistband" it is automatically assumed by most that there was no holster involved when in fact this could be very likely how the gun was secured in his waistband, it does not mean carrying Mexican.

Bill Starks · Jan 29, 2011

He's lucky he didn't end up like Erik Scott

Shoppers recount police shooting outside Costco

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/24/shoppers-recount-police-shooting-outside-costco/

amlevin · Jan 29, 2011

Wonder if he got sleepy and pulled over after a trip out to Pahrump?

ak56 · Jan 29, 2011

Orphan said:
Roy Murry is an open carry advocate from Spokane.

Dave_pro2a whats so funny? Please fill me in cause I am just not getting the joke.

Roy has quality gear and quality firearms I would be very surprised if he was carrying Mexican.

My guess is the charges are trumped up.

What's funny is the reactions here based upon extremely limited information in this newspaper story.

No matter how he was carrying, he was legal while he was in the vehicle. The story states that he informed the officers before he exited the vehicle.

Did they order him out of the vehicle? Or did he get out voluntarily?
Did they give him an opportunity to secure the firearm before he got out?

He could have made a mistake, or they could have entrapped him. Can't tell from the information provided.

More questions than answers in the newspaper report.

Trigger Dr · Jan 29, 2011

AH YES!!!! Pahrump, the home of Armscor / Rock Island Arms (Advanced Tactical.com) Great 1911 guns, great customer service, economical prices, did I mention great guns with low prices?

Dave_pro2a · Jan 29, 2011

ak56 said:
What's funny is the reactions here based upon extremely limited information in this newspaper story.

No matter how he was carrying, he was legal while he was in the vehicle.

Really? It's legal to conceal a loaded pistol on your person without a permit in NV while inside a motor vehicle?

amlevin · Jan 29, 2011

Trigger Dr said:
AH YES!!!! Pahrump, the home of Armscor / Rock Island Arms (Advanced Tactical.com) Great 1911 guns, great customer service, economical prices, did I mention great guns with low prices?

So how do you buy those guns there and not be a resident of NV.

Did you purposely avoid mentioning the "World Famous Chicken Ranch"? I have heard that their "Customer Service" is great too but never heard anyone use the word "economical" when describing their prices.

ak56 · Jan 29, 2011

Dave_pro2a said:
Really? It's legal to conceal a loaded pistol on your person without a permit in NV while inside a motor vehicle?

Looked a little more into this and it appears I may have been mistaken.

Following the Maps link at the top of this page, there is conflicting information. The travel map says there are no restrictions on car carry of a loaded gun in Nevada. Clicking on Nevada and bringing up the specific Nevada page, it says it must be clearly visible.

Looking at the Specific Nevada statutes, I do not see any vehicle exemption for concealed carry.

FMCDH · Jan 29, 2011

Dave_pro2a said:
Really? It's legal to conceal a loaded pistol on your person without a permit in NV while inside a motor vehicle?

No, concealed "on the person" is illegal without a permit, even in a POV. There are limited exceptions for vehicles, but while its "on the person" it must be OC.

Read the attorney generals letter on this topic, found here....
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/nevada.pdf

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