Does that clear it up for you, Paul?
First thing, No, I am not losing the context. You do not get the context. You were flaming people before you had any idea what a DD214 was.No, you are losing the context. Go back to my post, I posted the whole section, not just parts with key words missing. Let's try this again.
Don’t simplify it, Paul. You cannot simplify something that you cannot comprehend. Again, you were flaming people before you had any idea what a DD214 was. You flamed CCW214 when he was speaking the damn truth. When you read it again, consider this.Here is the whole section that you broke up. To simplify it, it basically means that you need to show documentation of small arms training while serving in the the U.S. armed forces, reserves, or national guard, it goes on to say that proof of that is proof of an honorable or general discharge under honorable conditions.
Again how was I wrong, the original poster did not say anything about if he had an 'honorable' or 'general under honorable conditions discharge'. I was answering his question with the information he gave. Also did you not read my post........
Currently If some one only served 3yrs active duty and get out they are not discharged, they are separated and transferred to the Inactive reserves for 5yrs. So their DD214 might not say honorable discharge OR a general discharge under honorable conditions. Your actual discharge comes after the total 8yr commitment.
So the proof of small arms training does matter in this case!
I guess unless you are the all knowing Paul, you should not answer any ones question because he will throw a hissy!
But really, you should take your own advise!
I went to this workshop and was told that my DD214 needs to have small arms training written on it in order to apply for CC.Mine doesn't have it on it but i did go thru training in boot camp.I called sara the NRA-ILA person and she said she'd get back to me.Anyone know the answer?
That is right, your DD214 has to show small arms training on it. You can also use any certificate (from the military) you may have that shows small arms training....
A DD214 must have "Documentation of completion of small arms training" AND show an Honarable Discharge or General Discharge (under honorable conditions) to be able to use it to get a WI-CWL. A DD214 with a discharge less than that won't get you a WI-CWL.
I won’t be accused of being a troll who sits behind a keyboard, so I will see you at the picnic.
My discharge was honorable so i guess i need to take a hunters saftey course to get my permit.No way i'm spendind a day at the VA trying to look up something that happened 38yrs ago.
As long as you have proof of an honorable discharge it will work.
As long as you have proof of an honorable discharge it will work.
As long as you have proof of an honorable discharge it will work.
SECTION 38. 175.60 of the statutes is created to read:
175.60 License to carry a concealed weapon. (1) DEFINITIONS. In this section
(4) TRAINING REQUIREMENTS. (a) The proof of training requirement under sub. (7) (e) may be met by any of the following:
14. Documentation of completion of small arms training while serving in the U.S. armed forces, reserves, or national guard as demonstrated by an honorable discharge or [...]
As long as you have proof of an honorable discharge it will work.
if you have a document that meets all the 'or's, then you are good to go, otherwise, find a training class to satisfy it.
You have NO idea what you are talking about, and you have COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF so YOU check your facts before attacking someone for answering someone else question with the information they were given.
I'm now confused as to the need for me to take a saftey course or just try my honorable dd214 with no small arms listed.I called the NRA-ILA lady and she never got back to me.
I have to agree with you PPF and Glockface, pretty much only very basic information is available from the DoD after that long.
Members of this forum who served in the military will have a DD214N (DD214 as some call it). This form is your Report of Separation from Active Duty. depending on which branch of service you served, the remarks section may or may not have what training you received or may have only part of it listed. Also depended on whatever the person processing you DD214N felt like how much to type in the Remarks section.
The DD214 should not be confused with your DD256 which is you Certificate of Discharge (honorable, general, etc) which is issued after you have completed your total military obligation. An example, I signed a six year obligation, 4 years active duty, 2 years inactive reserve. I was released from active duty in May 75 (DD214N), but did not get my Certificate of Discharge( DD256)until January 1977.
And no, I am not a know it all, I was a Personnelman while in the Navy and my job was to take care of enlisted personnel military records. I processed many, many DD214 forms. Albeit many years ago.
My opinion, remember I am not a lawyer, ............
.......is that as long as you have proof of an honorable or general discharge under honorable conditions, you are covered.