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San Francisco weighs requiring gun stores to videotape sales

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San Francisco gun stores would have to videotape all firearm and ammunition sales under a new proposal being considered by city officials.


KTVU reports that city Supervisor Mark Farrell introduced the proposal on Tuesday. Aside from requiring videotaped gun sales, the bill would require sales records to be sent to the San Francisco police department.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-affect-one-business-total/?intcmp=latestnews
Yes, California, but this could be mandated anywhere.
 

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Would there be a penalty if it failed to work at a particular time, like a cop's dash cam? Oh wait, nevermind.
 

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What protections are they placing on Personal Identifying Information? Will the press have access to these videos? What systems will be used to videotape, and why will other systems not be permitted/accepted? Will the city pay to purchase, install, and maintain and repair these systems? What happens if a gun store cannot get credit to pay for complying with the proposed requirement? Will the increase in sales tax receipts (you know they will increase because gun shops are going to have to raise prices to meet the expense of compliance) be escrowed for a designated purpose - if so, what is that designated purpose; if not, why not?

And those are just the questions I could come up without really thinking about the issue.

stay safe.
 

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What protections are they placing on Personal Identifying Information? Will the press have access to these videos? What systems will be used to videotape, and why will other systems not be permitted/accepted? Will the city pay to purchase, install, and maintain and repair these systems? What happens if a gun store cannot get credit to pay for complying with the proposed requirement? Will the increase in sales tax receipts (you know they will increase because gun shops are going to have to raise prices to meet the expense of compliance) be escrowed for a designated purpose - if so, what is that designated purpose; if not, why not?

And those are just the questions I could come up without really thinking about the issue.

stay safe.

whom are you going to articulate those question(s) to? the FFL ~ they're stuck in the middle and must comply or go out of business...

uh...oh how bout the idiot savant who is married to this hairball scheme and pushing it through city/county/state channels?

ipse
 
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skidmark

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whom are you going to articulate those question(s) to? the FFL ~ they're stuck in the middle and must comply or go out of business...

uh...oh how bout the idiot savant who is married to this hairball scheme and pushing it through city/county/state channels?

ipse

Why would one even consider querying the FFL? It's not their idea.

And since I'm not a resident there so most unlikely to become entangled with the issue, I'd prefer to have those and other questions answered in a court than in the Board of Supervisors' Chamber.

stay safe.
 

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shouldn't this be considered a protected thing under amendment 4? since the purchase is done on private property, and said purchase is part of a persons "effects?" you know right to be safe in the "person's property and effects?" not to mention would it violate property rights?
 

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If all the elected officials would have to wear body cameras that live stream to a public internet site 24/7/365 live monitoring then their idea may be considered.
 
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