WANT DO WANT DO WANT DO WANT DO WANT DO WANT DO WANT DO
- the endless bickering here. Maybe I can make that my sig!
It's understandable if someone believes that getting a permit to exercise 2A is a bad thing. That's a political and possibly a tactical viewpoint. There are valid reasons for believing that way. It's not just about do vs want, it's a different belief about what to do and what to want. Deal with it. You could compare it with discussions the Founders were having when starting this country, and they were arguing on some issues. (I don't think they were calling each other schoolyard insults so much, but I guess things were different then.) Currently you're in a position to taunt, but be careful telling all your opponents to do something, or they may follow your advice and successfully accomplish something you don't agree with!
That's how I originally felt about permits - I detested them and felt that I should not ask the government for permission. I still feel that way deep down. However, after seeing this effort I decided that it could be a very good thing for daily life and a good step towards the ideal IF people don't forget to keep pursuing (keep WANTING) true 2A carry. But the more urgent reason I support it this year is because America needs to see OC in order to affect the national public sentiment about guns. OC is limited with a patchwork of different laws, and the more people OC, the more we condition the public.
So I support the view that we should be vigilant about the danger of needing permits to exercise rights, but I believe it's very helpful to partially destroy all the local ordinance against OC and make it easier for people to carry. Probably it helps us to have some people that hate permits to the extent they wouldn't give in and get one to save their life, and others who take a reasonable compromise to get a step closer from where we were to where we need to be. That way we have progress and we have vigilance. That makes me happy. If anyone wants to flame me or use 3rd grade type communication to deride me because I have some sympathy with both sides on this particular point, be my guest and make my day. (Yes, I will do something. No, I will not shut up. You're not my boss or my wife, and we're not in 3rd grade so I don't care about any insults. Sorry to disappoint. I freely express my beliefs. I do tip my hat to those who get things done, though.)
This is a forum, it's a place to talk. It's both funny and sad to see people spend so much energy trying to suppress other views when they are (yeah I know, I know, sue me/bite me) on the general "same side" of being pro-gun. If that's what gets you off, so be it, but don't be surprised and lose control of bodily functions if you fail to shut up everyone who doesn't agree on some of those points! It's good advice to DO something, but unrealistic to expect to think you can shut down every WANT that is posted on a web forum. (Review what a web forum is.) Unless you can influence the forum administration or clamp down on free speech somehow, you'll just have to live with it.
Hopefully some of those WANTS will become DOs in future! Every DO started off as a WANT. That's how life works. (Unless you came out the womb in a senator's office, bill in hand, and started talking about it as soon as your head poked out - in which case I withdraw my argument - I gotta admit that's not wasting any time getting on the DO wagon.) Otherwise everyone began WANTING, and the person you call stooopid may pass a bill a few years from now. Maybe they'll do it in 2 years instead of 3. However long it takes, a good action is a good thing, and it starts with a good desire.
Besides, some thinking, including some talking and arguing about what is RIGHT, should come BEFORE taking action. Doing is very good, but an endless mantra of DO DO instead of normal discussion is in danger of becoming ... "DOO-DOO". People have to get the right idea first, then pursue it. Going after a half-baked idea can be dangerous.
Meanwhile, if interested people find this forum and see 2A supporters acting like monkeys at each other (and yes, I have seen real monkeys up close and personal roaming on the streets, in another part of the world, and yes it is looks just about like what I see here sometimes with the bickering) is it really helping the cause? Is it really the way to be a role model in both speech and action?