This week I'm going throught California staying the night in Palm Springs before going on to Yuma.
I'm looking for some advice on how to carry or store my hand guns while in California.
Thanks
Since you'll be traveling through many an unknown school zone while driving distance, I wouldn't advise on attempting UOC (loaded open carry is never legal on roads). Your best bet while traveling is what we call "locked unloaded concealed carry".
Ammo (including loaded mags) may be in the case, but not in the weapon itself, nor may a round be in the chamber.
The case needs to fully enclose the weapon, and be "secure" with a lock. The lock needn't be anything special. If your pistol comes with a hard plastic case, a 3-dial combo lock through the locking hole ought to suffice, and be rapidly removable
Also, just a note, if you remove this case from your car whilst inside a school zone, it may only be "directly to or from a motor vehicle" and any place where you may lawfully possess the handgun (such as a domicile, e.g. hotel room, within the school zone).
Yup. To clarify, the information in my post above was specific to California only. The laws are very different elsewhere.
Just for your information, not sure of other states however open carry is legal on the roads of Nevada, Utah, and Arizona. I have open carryed in all three states on a motorcycle. Nevada and Arizona you can have one in the pipe. In Utah you can have on in the pipe if you have a conceal permit the state recognizes.
Additional information.
The second common mistake is confusing or combining 12026.1 and 12026.2. 12026.1 simply states that 12025 does not apply when transporting a handgun in a motor vehicle’s trunk, or in a locked container in or to/from a motor vehicle. There are no location or deviation restrictions in 12026.1. 12026.2 is another (separate) list of exemptions to 12025, all but one of which (motion picture) are transporting exemptions. Unlike 12026.1, 12026.2 is not specific to motor vehicles. It can therefore be applied to all other forms of transportation, e.g., walking, bicycling, public transportation. Unlike 12026.1, 12026.2 does limit the transport exemptions from any unnecessary deviations.
Another common misconception is the belief that ammunition cannot be stored in the same case as a firearm, or that it must be locked up separately somehow. This is not true. There is no code to support this myth.
12026.1. (a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or is
temporarily within this state … from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
person, provided that the following applies to the firearm:
(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle other than the utility
or glove compartment.
Utah is MORE restrictive than Federal in that it includes not only K-12 but also day cares, pre-schools, massage therapy schools, hair cutting or cosmetology or truck driving schools, Colleges and Universities AND anyplace being used by any school for a field trip while the "CHILDREN" are present!-- same 1000 Foot restriction for all!
To clarify for UTAH, IT IS FULLY LEGAL to carry loaded in or on a vehicle IF you are 18 years or older and either are in lawful possession/control of the vehicle OR have permission of the person in lawful control of the vehicle (for a passenger carrying with some else driving). Just don't get off the bike or out of the car without being UTAH unloaded, No round in the chamber for semi-auto UNLESS you have a permit. And still watch out for both the Federal and UTAH states GFSZ's. Utah is MORE restrictive than Federal in that it includes not only K-12 but also day cares, pre-schools, massage therapy schools, hair cutting or cosmetology or truck driving schools, Colleges and Universities AND anyplace being used by any school for a field trip while the "CHILDREN" are present!-- same 1000 Foot restriction for all!
When I go to CA from Nevada, I just stop at the border and unload, then re-holster. Being that I have a NV ID and NV plates, they are going to have a hard time proving that I could possibly know where every school zone is.
When I go to CA from Nevada, I just stop at the border and unload, then re-holster. Being that I have a NV ID and NV plates, they are going to have a hard time proving that I could possibly know where every school zone is.
If they can show that your route took you past one SCHOOL ZONE sign, the entire rest of your trip is a violation of the law.
Remember, the whole idea isn't safety, it's about finding something that they can penali$e you for.
After reading many post I'm still not really clear on what I can and cannot do.
So I will be locking my unloaded gun in it's factory case with a small lock on it and storing it in the truck of my Corvette. I will keep the amunition in the front of the car with me and will not have any mags loaded.
I'm working in Victorville for the day, then spending the night in Palm Springs and going to Arizona the next day.
I not looking to OC while in California just want to make sure I don't get arrested at say a traffic stop for even having the gun.
Any input or suggestions would be appriciated.
Bless the highly educated lawmakers and lawyers. Able to create their own job security by coming up with a boatload of confusing, complicated, entrenched useless laws with endless interpretations allowing for never ending arguing.