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Detained By Metro On The Strip

MPlannette

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So I went down to the Strip tonight to try to get some candid photos of people and ended up in cuffs. I started off photographing in some of the casinos and walkways and ended up in front of the Bellagio at about 9:45pm, which happened to be when the water show was starting. I was in the process of taking some shots of people silhouetted against the light from the water show when I overheard two metro officers, one male, one female, ask two middle-aged black men if they were smoking any "weed". This immediately pulled my attention towards the situation. The men answered no and stated that they were locals who come to the Strip frequently. The male metro officer told them that they would need to see their IDs and the men complied. My attention peaked when the male officer told the men, that for officer safety, they would need to search their pockets. They proceeded to empty their belongings onto the sidewalk in front of the Bellagio. This is about the time I started photographing them.

After a few seconds the male officer shined his light at me and approached me until he was about 3 inches from my face. He told me that I could not photograph the two men because it violated their privacy. I replied that, since we were on public property, I could photograph the officers and the two men. He stated that "it was in my best interest to turn around and leave." I told him that I was within my rights to photograph and I would not leave. He demanded photo ID and I refused, he told me that "it was in my best interest to show him ID" and that it was state law that I must show ID when asked by a police officer. When I refused, he told me to turn around and spread my legs. He then proceeded cuff me and pat me down, I was asking "why am I being detained during this", but he didn't bother to answer. When he found the small knife I was carrying he said, "you're being detained for illegally carrying a concealed weapon." I told him there are no laws that prohibit me from carrying a knife and he said they would check to see if it was a legal knife.

He asked for my name, which I gave him, then my date of birth, which I refused to give. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't give it to him, so I chickened out and gave it to him. He called in my info, which took about 5 or 6 minutes. He came back over and took the cuffs off. As soon as the cuffs were off I went to get a pen out of my camera bag and ask for their badge numbers. The male officer told me his before I could write it down.

This is the kicker, they decided that it was a good time to walk about 15 feet away and set my knife down on the public sidewalk. I contested this, but they said it was for "officer safety" and was protocol for them. I asked for the badge number again and the male officer said, "you might want to go get your knife before that kid does." I went to pick up my knife and looked back to see both officers walking away.

I had enough sense to switch my camera to video mode and walk after the officers, which was the direction my car was parked too, and ask for both badge numbers. The male officer refused at first stating that "he had given it to me already", but after I contested, gave it to me.

I apologize for the novel of a post, but this was the last thing I expected to be detained for. That is also the reason I didn't have my recorder on me. I also wish I had been quick enough to switch my camera to video mode during the detainment, although the officer seemed to check it when he was patting me down and would have probably turned it off if it was on. My camera bag was also searched after they discovered the knife.

Badge Numbers

Male Officer-14161

Female Officer-13587
 
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Vegassteve

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You can post up the video or PM it to me if you wish. I am a audio engineer for a big water show on the strip Not O. And I can try to clean it up for you. We should get the badge numbers correct and some pictures so we can flood metro with emails and calls and demand this stop. Also I would love to put you in contact with my buddies at copblock.org.
 

MPlannette

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How did they react to you're 1911? Envy?

I guess I should have clarified, I was NOT carrying a firearm. I generally don't when I'm out taking photos. All I was doing was photographing. That's why I was shocked when the cuffs came on.
 

MPlannette

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You can post up the video or PM it to me if you wish. I am a audio engineer for a big water show on the strip Not O. And I can try to clean it up for you. We should get the badge numbers correct and some pictures so we can flood metro with emails and calls and demand this stop. Also I would love to put you in contact with my buddies at copblock.org.

That would be great, I will send you the file as soon as I can.
 

DON`T TREAD ON ME

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Once the video is "cleaned up" It would be cool if you sent both versions to Tim, so he can post them on Guerrilla Lawfare. Then on your complaint You just give them the link to GL website where the video is located.

Also I would like to assist you in writing your complaint as I found it best to put down the actual policy s That the officers violated.

I have a few more hints but would like it if we could talk on the phone.
 

DON`T TREAD ON ME

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You can post up the video or PM it to me if you wish. I am a audio engineer for a big water show on the strip Not O. And I can try to clean it up for you. We should get the badge numbers correct and some pictures so we can flood metro with emails and calls and demand this stop. Also I would love to put you in contact with my buddies at copblock.org.

Is there a local copblock in Vegas?
 

jdholmes

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This sounds like one of those things where you should definitely start action on it immediately and get it out there fast.

You probably know that...oh well.
 

DON`T TREAD ON ME

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It looks like we got a decent size crew for last min. We are meeting at the Harley Davidson cafe at 8:00 pm Open carry (optional) and camera. See you all down there.

If you cannot make it, Call someone that might be able to.
 

phreak

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Me: Thanks for calling Aria security how may I assist you?

Cosmo Security: Yeah, this is ****** from cosmo security, I just wanted to give you guys a heads up, We just saw 4 WMAs (white male adults) and 2 WFAs (white female adults) all openly carrying .45s. Looks like they are heading for Bellagio but we thought we would give you a heads up.

Me: Thanks for the heads up but it is perfectly legal to open carry in Nevada.

Cosmo Security: <Silence> Well just thought you should know.

Me: Thanks for calling have a pleasant evening.


Wish I could have came out with you guys tonight but I had to work. Also wish i could make the lunches but my days off are Sunday Monday. Hope you guys had a goodnight.
 

DON`T TREAD ON ME

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Me: Thanks for calling Aria security how may I assist you?

Cosmo Security: Yeah, this is ****** from cosmo security, I just wanted to give you guys a heads up, We just saw 4 WMAs (white male adults) and 2 WFAs (white female adults) all openly carrying .45s. Looks like they are heading for Bellagio but we thought we would give you a heads up.

Me: Thanks for the heads up but it is perfectly legal to open carry in Nevada.

Cosmo Security: <Silence> Well just thought you should know.

Me: Thanks for calling have a pleasant evening.


Wish I could have came out with you guys tonight but I had to work. Also wish i could make the lunches but my days off are Sunday Monday. Hope you guys had a goodnight.

That is just funny, were you there? we went ot go in the cosmo on our way to Bellagio, I held the door and security spotted my .45 everyone else went in (right handed folk) and security stopped me. he asked us to go down the stairs so we would not be in the Casino he informed me that it is illegal to be on a gaming floor with a firearm.
 

Sabotage70

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No I work in Aria security dispatch and the cosmo called. I was like, wish I could have joined in.

Would a mid-day meet up work for you? We did one on news years day. And we walked from one end of the Aria to the other and had no problems. Did you happen to hear about that? I diffidently know the guys with the earwigs seen us. And whats funny is we went through out the Cosmo and they didn't say crap to us that day.

Now that the weather is starting to get nice I was thinking of doing another noonish meet up.
 

phreak

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I am in any sunday or monday anytime. Thats why i cant make the lunches on saturdays
 
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