Interesting I find the deafening silence from certain elements here...
Oh no, not at all. I’m on the call list now asking my republican representatives why a democrat house member had to be the one that attempted to resurrect the true title of SB234? We’ll see how many call me back next week. Be it posturing or what did you call it “political maneuvering” I will be getting some answers.Yeah, I noticed a distinct lack of chest thumping Internet bravado...what's up guys? Are you not just as pissed at the House as you were the Senate....were are the demands of resignation, etc?
To be honest, I'm tired. I didn't really expect today to happen. Before the Communist run Senate decided to shoot down expanding freedom for Floridians, I fought fought fought and wrote uncountable emails to my representatives. I was glued to the forum every chance I got to see what was going on. After that happened I lost hope and took a break. Today was a surprise, but look where SB234 stands.
I don't think this is even about representing your people, I think it's more about protecting the constitution. They take an oath to support the constitution, representing your people comes next. Constitution first, yet, a bill that expands a destroyed constitutional right is shot down.
These guys aren't just bad representatives of We The People, they are bad Americans. They don't share a love for freedom like we do. They oppose what our founding fathers fought and died for. These guys are dangerous and they're in control.
Oh no, not at all. I’m on the call list now asking my republican representatives why a democrat house member had to be the one that attempted to resurrect the true title of SB234? We’ll see how many call me back next week. Be it posturing or what did you call it “political maneuvering” I will be getting some answers.
Well, there is a corrective action that can be taken...
These guys aren't just bad representatives of We The People, they are bad Americans. They don't share a love for freedom like we do. They oppose what our founding fathers fought and died for. These guys are dangerous and they're in control.
And I for one, plan on taking that corrective action in November. This isn't my ONLY issue, but it is one reasonably high up on my list.
Yes, exactly what they want to tell you......
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Again, legalizing OC is a tall order. It doesn't matter what state you are in. If that state had criminalized OC for some reason 25 years ago, getting the prohibition repealed would take work. Even in gold star states people react with surprise when they learn OC is legal. We've been TRAINED. Please read my signature. They're government school educated, don't appreciate any of the reasons for OC, would never OC themselves, and so assume that there must be a darn good reason OC was made illegal in the first place. Despite being wrong countless times, they're not into the gun rights movement so they really think OC will turn into "the wild wild west."
If we want it, we cannot in any way confirm their stereotypes of "gun nut". Being overzealous and visibly upset will not help the cause. I'm going to try and do what Sean says. He and FL carry are on the map and have taken initiative and are serious about FL getting OC. This is doable. OK has failed the last two years. TX failed on their first attempt, and may even fail this year. Arkansas failed this year. South Carolina failed this year. We're going to have to leave the comfort zone and actually go to the offices of these people, or whatever it is Fl carry has planned.
Just was noticing a distinct silence from the "take it easy" bunch. But no biggie, few of us had any real faith that today's dog-n-pony show was anything other than that.
What, exactly, would you have "us" do? We played the game, fought hard, and lost in the 9th inning. We will now prepare for next season, starting with requesting or and compiling data on CWFL holders who have been unduly detained for the reasons this abortion of a bill supposedly fixes. Get detained for momentary exposure? Call Florida Carry and let us know. Hopefully, we'll get hundreds of these incidents to throw at the legislature next year and tell them, "see, it didn't work, just like we said".
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Again, legalizing OC is a tall order. It doesn't matter what state you are in. If that state had criminalized OC for some reason 25 years ago, getting the prohibition repealed would take work. Even in gold star states people react with surprise when they learn OC is legal. We've been TRAINED. Please read my signature. They're government school educated, don't appreciate any of the reasons for OC, would never OC themselves, and so assume that there must be a darn good reason OC was made illegal in the first place. Despite being wrong countless times, they're not into the gun rights movement so they really think OC will turn into "the wild wild west."
If we want it, we cannot in any way confirm their stereotypes of "gun nut". Being overzealous and visibly upset will not help the cause. I'm going to try and do what Sean says. He and FL carry are on the map and have taken initiative and are serious about FL getting OC. This is doable. OK has failed the last two years. TX failed on their first attempt, and may even fail this year. Arkansas failed this year. South Carolina failed this year. We're going to have to leave the comfort zone and actually go to the offices of these people, or whatever it is Fl carry has planned.
Christ,no wonder we're doomed.