deniedmyrights
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is why there is a forum rule about citing - especially for legal conclusions.You know it use to be a felony to steal a chicken in this country and it used to be a felony to steal a car. Now it is no longer a felony to do either one.
This is why there is a forum rule about citing - especially for legal conclusions.
With that pronouncement, insupported by any citation, you utterly and completely lost all chance of me believing anything you had to say.
As for the rest of your sophomoric screed - well, it's sophomoric.
But in spite of all that, I welcome you to OCDO. I do hope you will stick around, learn at least a little, and become a true contributor to the forum.
stay safe.
Those who quote rule so easily to hopefully silence anything they disagree with are the states best friend. They know nothing of the of the bill of rights and constitution and mans natural God given rights. I guess I better not mention God since there is no legal precedent to prove there is a God.
WAKE UP!!!!!!
While Denied may not be able to make a citation for "stealing a chicken used to be a felony," the gist of the idea is true. There is a saying "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb" based upon English Common Law that had some serious consequences for what might be thought of as trivial offenses. At one time the theft of anything worth more than an English Shilling was worth the death penalty. The phrase comes from the justification for doing something much worse (stealing a fully grown sheep) because a seemingly lesser offense (stealing a lamb) carried the same extreme penalty.
In more recent American History Horse Theivery was often an occasion for a impromtu gala featuring tall tree limbs and short rope neckties.
How do you equate stealing a chicken or car to raping someone or someone committing adultery.
I guess you are one that believes all crimes are the same. That thinking means that you are an adulator too. Have you never lusted for another woman in your heart. Jesus said if you look on another woman and lust, you have committed adultery. Your argument condemns yourself as well.
Heh heh heh Taking "you may beat the rap but you cannot beat the ride" to new depths of truth.I'm sure in the world's history, I can find people who have been killed by their government for trivial matters. King David had Bathsheba's husband killed because he had a hot wife.
How do you equate stealing a chicken or car to raping someone or someone committing adultery.
I guess you are one that believes all crimes are the same. That thinking means that you are an adulator too. Have you never lusted for another woman in your heart. Jesus said if you look on another woman and lust, you have committed adultery. Your argument condemns yourself as well.
Okay, I took a moment to copy&past the original post into another document and do a little after-the-fact paragraphing. He doesn't say he was denied the ability to obtain a firearm. He is saying, from what I can see, that people have been denied a fundamental, God given and Constitutionally protected right, because of what may have been trivial mistakes. The whole misdemeanor domestic violence = denial of Second Amendment rights comes to mind. While domestic violence can be a serious problem, are we justifying grabbing someone's wrist hard enough to leave a mark in order to prevent being brained with a frying pan is equal to dousing someone with lighter fluid and setting them ablaze in their sleep as being equal in deserving the same punishment? (sheep v lamb)
Would we so easily accept that being found guilty of speeding when you testified under oath that you were going the speed limit and it was proven to be a lie equated to being denied the right to write your newspaper, or publish a book, or exercise any other means of free speech?
By his username, one may absolutely and reasonably infer that DeniedMyRights was ... denied his rights.
And I absolutely agree with your stance that once you've paid your debt to society that rights should be restored. I might draw the line at serial child molesters as there is a high recidivism rate (so, lifelong probation, maybe?)
I'm reminded of a scene from the movie "High Noon", where upon leaving prison Marshall Kane's nemesis is handed back his firearms and left to go on his way. The right to life, and to protect that life should be protected. The Second Amendment protects the people's right to bear arms, but the right to life itself and the protection of it comes much earlier in the Declaration of Independence and was said to be inalienable. Should one lose the right to wear a seat-belt to protect his life because of some misdeed?
(I sure hope I remember seeing that scene. It could as easily be an amalgam of scenes from many westerns. And yes, I know... it's only a movie!!)